The Royals and the Vatican

Klore wrote:

To employ an analogy - Does it makes sense for a six foot tall policeman to step into a play pen, and go around chastising and penalising all the little kids, throwing handcuffs on the more boisterous ones and confiscating toys? Isn't he in the wrong environment? Hmmm? :D Okay, Soul, so you have said a bit about the Jesuits and their connections - very interesting. You've suggested in the same thread that John Coleman's information is suspect and highly biased as far as the topic of a conspiracy is concerned. But I want to ask you two questions: 1. Why shouldn't the Queen be at the top helping to coordinate schemes with the aristocracy and the businessmen of huge influence and ideological zeal to realise a globalist scheme? Just because she has a benevolent public image doesn't mean she isn't in the background and in private consolidating her position and looking at ways of putting royalty firmly and permanently in the executive chair with greater power than ever. From what the public does know of her she seems to favour "good management" and "good works" by the famous and the powerful, while honouring the little people of good works...but who do you think she relates to more and thus where does her sympathy lie? Also, mainstream commentators have admitted it was the Royal's intention to create a "family image" for the public... so we have to consider the PR image and then look at the real sentiment and personalities. 2. It seems clear to me that the Papacy has significant power, but it clearly is not the only power in the world. What makes you think the Queen of the United Kingsom and the British Commonwealth would give way to the Papacy, to give tribute and supreme power to the Pope?

Completely invalid analogy.

How is it that researchers who maintain that Rome is the ultimate omega point of New World Order control don't go round yelling idiotic, heckling-style abuse on forum threads at those who disagree with them, yet it is considered mere playfulness by someone like yourself who expects to be taken seriously?

How pathetic & incapable of behaving in a civil manner do you consider all of the posters at this forum or similar ones to be?

That "slacker" mindset completely plays into the hands of your lords & masters, in fact this is a part of what makes them consider it their right to rule over you, as that outlook is considered to be consent.

The fact of the matter is that this mindless attacks on those sharing the info that they uncover & the connections that they make is like getting down on your hands & needs, arse up in the air with a sign on your back saying "Jesuits, Opus Dei, Sabbatean Zionists, Royals & Black Lodge Masons, come & get it - willing victim this way!" Fine, if that's what "Azaz", "Ognir" & "Joe Blowman", et al, want to do, but they are doing the NWO research arena a massive disservice by promoting their willful ignorance.

But you think that this "truth" game is for complete & utter divs, with no mind paid to accuracy, substantiality or integrity? That's what you are saying plain & simple.

So you suggest that Queen Elizabeth II is Top Dog compared with the Jesuits & the Pope? When was this supposed to have happened?

The Queen's Order of St John is part of the Order of Malta franchise & she wears the Maltese cross, the SMOM far predating this British Order of St John. In the early 1960's this connection was made overt in an Alliance between the SMOM, the Order of St John & its associated European Johanniterorden.



When she visits the successive Popes, she must always wear deferential black that all nominally Protestant monarchs must wear in contrast to the superior symbolic status attributed to Catholic monarchs, who like the Pope wear white.



http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page2214.asp

"The Queen meets Pope John Paul II in the Vatican in 2000. The Queen is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, while the Pope is the Head of the Catholic Church. In accordance with Vatican tradition, visiting Protestant Sovereigns wear black and visiting Catholic Sovereigns wear white when meeting His Holiness"

The Queen being a "Protestant" is a farce anyway. The Windsors are the Roman Catholic Saxe-Coburg-Gothas:

See:

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/the-pope-the-queen-westminster-cathedral-windsors-saxe-coburg-gothas-are-catholics/

Where we discover that the Queen was the first British monarch to be allowed into Westminster Cathedral (not to be confused with the [covertly Papal-controlled] Church of England's Westminster Abbey for hundreds of years. This invitation was extended in 1995 by Cardinal Hume, the Archbishop of Westminster (the "English Pope") from 1976-1999.

Further reading:

Illuminati Descendants Assemble for an Eyes Wide Shut-like "Heaven and Hell" Bash

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/windsors-saxe-coburg-gothas-are-direct-descendants-of-high-bavarian-illuminati-duke-ernst-ii/

Cult of Mithra-Seth...

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/cult-of-mithra-seth/

Church of England's Capitulation to Antichrist Vatican

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/church-of-englands-capitulation-to-antichrist-vatican/

Via the so-called Society of Jesus (the Jesuits), Opus Dei, the Papal-loyal Knighthood Orders network (the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, the Order of St Januarius, the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of St George, the Royal Order of Francis I, the Order of the Holy Sepulchre, the Knights of Columbus, the Order of St Sylvester, the Order of St Gregory, the House of Savoy's Order of Sts Maurice & Lazarus, the Teutonic Knights etc, etc, the list goes on & on, but those are some of the most significant ones) & their endless connections to global politics, military, intelligence, finance & industry, not to mention entwinedness with high-level "regular" (openly UGLE-alligned) & "irregular" Freemasonry (Grand Orient Freemasonry, Memphis-Misraim, CLIPSAS network, P2, etc), the reach of Rome is unparalleled, a situation that has remained static for over two millennium, despite what they teach in schools about "American" hegemony.

A close inspection at the following page will reveal that the photographs say a thousand words each regarding this situation of Roman supremacy:

Rome's Control of the New World Order in Pictures

http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/romes-control-of-the-new-world-order-in-pictures/

It is also worth noting the following:

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* KEY ROYAL & ARISTOCRATIC FREEMASONS:

- Prince Edward, Duke of Kent : Cousin to both Queen Elizabeth II & the Duke of Gloucester, the Duke of Kent is the “Most Worshipful” Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) & is also First Grand Principal of the Supreme Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of England & Grand Master of the Order of St Michael & St George. Note that his wife Katharine, Duchess of Kent converted to Roman Catholicism in 1994, as did their son Lord Nicholas Windsor in 2001, who then went on to get married in the Vatican in 2006.

- Spencer Compton, 7th Marquess of Northampton: The UGLE Pro [Deputy] Grand Master & is also the Pro [Deputy] First Grand Principal of the Supreme Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of England.

- Prince Michael of Kent: The Duke of Kent’s brother, Prince Michael is the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Mark Master Masons. His wife, Princess Michael of Kent, has always been a Roman Catholic & is a Dame Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of the (Papal-loyal) SMOM, within the Order’s British Association. Princess Michael is also the senior Dame (Dame Grand Cross of Justice) of the British and Irish Delegation of the Franco-Neapolitan branch of the (Papal-loyal) Constantinian Order.

The Marquess of Northampton (Spencer Compton - who at UK £70 million is Britain's richest "Buddhist" FWIW!), Julian Reese of the Cornerstone Society & around 50 other UGLE-alligned English Freemasons are Vatican-loyal subversives (subversive to English sovereignty in preference to the Jesuit/Papal European Union that is).

Consider too that the Queen invited Cardinal Murphy O'Connor, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Westminster (the current "English Pope" from 2000 to date), to conduct a family service at her home in Sandringham on January 13, 2002. This was considered (by the Profane press) to be quite an unusual move.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1693795.stm

PICS OF QUEEN ELIZABETH II IN DEFERENTIAL BLACK WITH THE POPE IN THE VATICAN (POPE JOHN XXIII IN MAY 1961 & JOHN PAUL II IN OCTOBER 1980 & OCTOBER 2000:

-Troy