Female, 40, Philadelphia, PA
Posted December 20, 2010
Thanks for sharing this with us. I think the problem with some black men is that they fail to remember that their mother's are black women and why would you glorify a woman who is not a reciprocal of who gave birth to you.
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@ sistersu
because some of us are sick, sis,
and we don't love anything "black"
including ourselves
and that's the truth
but keep in mind that most BM date/marry BW
BM don't control the images
but those who participate in demeaning BW
should be held accountable
and be dealt with SEVERELY
because some of us are sick, sis,
and we don't love anything "black"
including ourselves
and that's the truth
but keep in mind that most BM date/marry BW
BM don't control the images
but those who participate in demeaning BW
should be held accountable
and be dealt with SEVERELY
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Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL
Posted December 22, 2010
@ easy_one65 who said, "There are more than enough drop-dead gorgeous, succulent, hot, sexy, sultry, provocative Black women who can "sell" any fragrance with good memories and more adjectives!...(lol!).. "
ME: brother, that's what the white media DOESN"T want us to see, that goes against white supremacy to say the BW is just as good and sometimes better than the white female.
this really isn't about the white female being better, because a lot of the WM controlling the media/beauty/entertainment industry are HOMOSEXUALS, so they're not into women to begin with
what this is about is USING the white female and putting her on a pedestal to keep the WHITE RACE on a pedestal. The WM knows that the higher he lifts the WW, the higher he lifts HIMSELF because he CAME FROM A WW
And why we (BM) can't figure that sh___ out is beyond me, seriously, how the h__ can WE be better than the women that gave birth to us??????
One thing I can almost guarantee is if WE (BM) started respecting and uplifting our women and their NATURAL BEAUTY -- NOT because they look "whiter" or have long hair or light skin, but loving them the way GOD MADE THEM
WE would have a boost in self-esteem, brother, as men who CAME FROM THAT BW we put on that pedestal.
I am certain that the rise in BM suicide, homosexuality, and the rise in gangster rap music that degrades our women are LINKED
because while we tear our women down WE TEAR OURSELVES DOWN
easy_one said, "It's time for bruhs like Usher and P. Diddy to stop making excuses, "Man up" and use some kind of marketing leverage to get expose more Black women (and Black men too) into the large picture of selling successful products and services."
ME: brother, they aren't making excuses, they don't care, they are like most of these black celebrities, for sale to the highest bidder, most are slaves of the white entertainment industry that doesn't respect them worth a D___, but pimps their questionable talent to promote white supremacy
there will be NO waking up from brothers who are in this deep, what we need to do is to STOP WORSHIPING CELEBRITIES just because they are rich and famous
and let's keep it real, we don't admire their talent, we admiring that MONEY and that BENTLEY, and that MANSION
because if they could sing the same but worked at the Post office, we would NOT BE CALLING THEM ''ROLE MODELS' and wanting to be like them
ME: brother, that's what the white media DOESN"T want us to see, that goes against white supremacy to say the BW is just as good and sometimes better than the white female.
this really isn't about the white female being better, because a lot of the WM controlling the media/beauty/entertainment industry are HOMOSEXUALS, so they're not into women to begin with
what this is about is USING the white female and putting her on a pedestal to keep the WHITE RACE on a pedestal. The WM knows that the higher he lifts the WW, the higher he lifts HIMSELF because he CAME FROM A WW
And why we (BM) can't figure that sh___ out is beyond me, seriously, how the h__ can WE be better than the women that gave birth to us??????
One thing I can almost guarantee is if WE (BM) started respecting and uplifting our women and their NATURAL BEAUTY -- NOT because they look "whiter" or have long hair or light skin, but loving them the way GOD MADE THEM
WE would have a boost in self-esteem, brother, as men who CAME FROM THAT BW we put on that pedestal.
I am certain that the rise in BM suicide, homosexuality, and the rise in gangster rap music that degrades our women are LINKED
because while we tear our women down WE TEAR OURSELVES DOWN
easy_one said, "It's time for bruhs like Usher and P. Diddy to stop making excuses, "Man up" and use some kind of marketing leverage to get expose more Black women (and Black men too) into the large picture of selling successful products and services."
ME: brother, they aren't making excuses, they don't care, they are like most of these black celebrities, for sale to the highest bidder, most are slaves of the white entertainment industry that doesn't respect them worth a D___, but pimps their questionable talent to promote white supremacy
there will be NO waking up from brothers who are in this deep, what we need to do is to STOP WORSHIPING CELEBRITIES just because they are rich and famous
and let's keep it real, we don't admire their talent, we admiring that MONEY and that BENTLEY, and that MANSION
because if they could sing the same but worked at the Post office, we would NOT BE CALLING THEM ''ROLE MODELS' and wanting to be like them
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Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL
Posted December 22, 2010
@ Redalert7
good point about Michael J who had REAL crossover appeal
Regarding Dave Chappelle, look at his career after refusing, he's working a lot of small clubs in America and Africa, and you haven't seen him in a movie or TV show, to my knowledge. THAT'S the price blacks pay when they don't play the white supremacy game
I'll repeat what I said earlier,
these black entertainers are told what to do, and yes, some could refuse to do what they're told, but they will pay the price.
black stars don't control the companies that run the networks, music companies, distribution outlets, radio station, or the sponsors who advertise on TV and radio
try to imagine this
Usher says he wants BW in his commercials and refuses to have a WW as his costar. The ad campaign is immediately cancelled and Usher's cologne is shelved
Over the next three months, Usher can't get his music played on any radio stations, he can't get his CDs into any record store, or major retailer like WalMart or Best Buy. He can't get his music videos played on BET or MTV, or VH-1. He can't book a concert at any major venue, and he can't get any press or movie roles, etc.
This is the REAL POWER behind these black entertainers and make no mistake this is true for ALL BLACK ENTERTAINERS
from Oprah Winfrey to Denzel Washington
we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, and some black entertainers do manage to maintain some integrity, but in my opinion, most don't. They are going to do whatever that WM or WW in charge tells them what to do
and the white media will build them up to make it look like these black folks have real power
but let them step out of line, Isaiah Washington OR Wesley Snipes
AND it's easy to see who has the REAL POWER
(think I'll post a chapter from our book about the TV biz)
good point about Michael J who had REAL crossover appeal
Regarding Dave Chappelle, look at his career after refusing, he's working a lot of small clubs in America and Africa, and you haven't seen him in a movie or TV show, to my knowledge. THAT'S the price blacks pay when they don't play the white supremacy game
I'll repeat what I said earlier,
these black entertainers are told what to do, and yes, some could refuse to do what they're told, but they will pay the price.
black stars don't control the companies that run the networks, music companies, distribution outlets, radio station, or the sponsors who advertise on TV and radio
try to imagine this
Usher says he wants BW in his commercials and refuses to have a WW as his costar. The ad campaign is immediately cancelled and Usher's cologne is shelved
Over the next three months, Usher can't get his music played on any radio stations, he can't get his CDs into any record store, or major retailer like WalMart or Best Buy. He can't get his music videos played on BET or MTV, or VH-1. He can't book a concert at any major venue, and he can't get any press or movie roles, etc.
This is the REAL POWER behind these black entertainers and make no mistake this is true for ALL BLACK ENTERTAINERS
from Oprah Winfrey to Denzel Washington
we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, and some black entertainers do manage to maintain some integrity, but in my opinion, most don't. They are going to do whatever that WM or WW in charge tells them what to do
and the white media will build them up to make it look like these black folks have real power
but let them step out of line, Isaiah Washington OR Wesley Snipes
AND it's easy to see who has the REAL POWER
(think I'll post a chapter from our book about the TV biz)
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nodoubt10
nodoubt10
Male, 27, Saint Louis, MO
Posted December 23, 2010
@ Byakuuga who said, "Haven't you wondered why some talented black people and even some white people just sort of disappear? They don't die or go missing, but that next project never happens, they aren't cast in movies, the leaked album never appears, their tv show goes off the air in spite of great ratings? Many times that happens because someone took a principled stand on something and consequences are paid. Then they just find the next person that will say yes to whatever thing that was objected to by the previous person."
I also agree with this! Let's not forget about Janet Hubert-Whitten, who played Vivian on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. She was replaced by a much lighter Vivian. I recently watched a TV show about her explaining the reason why she left the show but I can't recall the reason why. She disappeared and no one ever wondered why.
@Currymel,
I understand that the cologne is not made for your "demographics", but as a BW shouldn't this enrage you as it disrespects BW collectively? It's good that you don't purchase the cologne, but I thought any black person seeing these types of commercial would see them for what they are worth, and the significance behind them. If it's not made for your "demographics", what about your daughters, nieces, cousins, etc, in which it adversely affects them not matter who the commercial is tended to reach.
All we are saying here is that we have to fight against these sort of ploys and not look at them as, "well it doesn't directly affect me, so why should I care". Maybe it doesn't, but it does to a bunch of your young relatives who may need answers to this.
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I used to think that we were on these blogs "preaching to the choir", but I like to imagine that someone who'd really need to read our comments one day, will stumble across this blog and reaffirm that what's been going on in their mind the whole time is true. Everything that we've been saying here will not only reaffirm their thoughts, but also let them know that there other people who feel the same way about these issues and would like to do something about it.
Thanks again for posting this Cram.
I also agree with this! Let's not forget about Janet Hubert-Whitten, who played Vivian on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. She was replaced by a much lighter Vivian. I recently watched a TV show about her explaining the reason why she left the show but I can't recall the reason why. She disappeared and no one ever wondered why.
@Currymel,
I understand that the cologne is not made for your "demographics", but as a BW shouldn't this enrage you as it disrespects BW collectively? It's good that you don't purchase the cologne, but I thought any black person seeing these types of commercial would see them for what they are worth, and the significance behind them. If it's not made for your "demographics", what about your daughters, nieces, cousins, etc, in which it adversely affects them not matter who the commercial is tended to reach.
All we are saying here is that we have to fight against these sort of ploys and not look at them as, "well it doesn't directly affect me, so why should I care". Maybe it doesn't, but it does to a bunch of your young relatives who may need answers to this.
------------------------------ -------
I used to think that we were on these blogs "preaching to the choir", but I like to imagine that someone who'd really need to read our comments one day, will stumble across this blog and reaffirm that what's been going on in their mind the whole time is true. Everything that we've been saying here will not only reaffirm their thoughts, but also let them know that there other people who feel the same way about these issues and would like to do something about it.
Thanks again for posting this Cram.
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crammasters
Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL
Posted December 23, 2010
@ nodoubt who said, "Let's not forget about Janet Hubert-Whitten, who played Vivian on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. She was replaced by a much lighter Vivian. She disappeared and no one ever wondered why."
ME: same thing with the original Divorce Court judge mablean, and now you NEVER seen any dark-skinned BW on TV, Oprah might be the darkest one.
You can see it in the commercials, nearly all the blacks now are bi-racial, and they're trying to tell us something, that we should be breeding ourselves OUT OF EXISTENCE, and many of us are falling for it, because we do not understand the HISTORY behind it, and how IR sex has destroyed other non-white cultures. that's a FACT, and it can be PROVEN...
Your comment to Currymel, illustrates a big part of the problem. Too many of us don't care (and refuse to take a stand) UNLESS it directly affects "ME" -- and we don't "seem" to care about the black folk coming up behind us OR how it will affect them (we'll just sit on our hands and wait for them to mess up then say, "I don't know what's wrong with young black people today!")
and black folk will argue this point down, but h___, the evidence is everywhere in our attitudes and our SILENCE.
brother I hope one day someone who doesn't get it now, will read our books or this blog, or your comments, tc2ewra's, _A_, MisterUnderstood, Byakuuga's, AfricanS, CaliFemme, Venita's, etc.
because i didn't "get" a lot of what was happening for a long time and u never know who u might reach or what kind of seed you've planted that will appear a plant with deep roots
I should be thanking you for all your support, brother,
there have been many days when you validated me and what I'm trying to do and inspired me to continue the fight
without that, i would have been long gone from BP
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crammasters
ME: same thing with the original Divorce Court judge mablean, and now you NEVER seen any dark-skinned BW on TV, Oprah might be the darkest one.
You can see it in the commercials, nearly all the blacks now are bi-racial, and they're trying to tell us something, that we should be breeding ourselves OUT OF EXISTENCE, and many of us are falling for it, because we do not understand the HISTORY behind it, and how IR sex has destroyed other non-white cultures. that's a FACT, and it can be PROVEN...
Your comment to Currymel, illustrates a big part of the problem. Too many of us don't care (and refuse to take a stand) UNLESS it directly affects "ME" -- and we don't "seem" to care about the black folk coming up behind us OR how it will affect them (we'll just sit on our hands and wait for them to mess up then say, "I don't know what's wrong with young black people today!")
and black folk will argue this point down, but h___, the evidence is everywhere in our attitudes and our SILENCE.
brother I hope one day someone who doesn't get it now, will read our books or this blog, or your comments, tc2ewra's, _A_, MisterUnderstood, Byakuuga's, AfricanS, CaliFemme, Venita's, etc.
because i didn't "get" a lot of what was happening for a long time and u never know who u might reach or what kind of seed you've planted that will appear a plant with deep roots
I should be thanking you for all your support, brother,
there have been many days when you validated me and what I'm trying to do and inspired me to continue the fight
without that, i would have been long gone from BP
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crammasters
Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL
Posted December 25, 2010
@ Venita
ME: I agree with much of u said, didn't know about the two kids with a white female,
i refused to watch his show after he did a comedy routine in front of some civil rights footage showing black marchers being bitten by dogs. I was DONE
you're right, his comedy demeans black people and that's why he was offered $50 Million -- we wrote about that in our first book
But, there are lessons to be learned from Chappelle, mainly what happens when a BM does not play "ball" by putting on a dress.
You may not like him, but turning down the $50M comedy central deal -- regardless of what u or i think of his comedy or IR relationships -- said to his fans that 'money is not everything
and black youth never gets that message, not even from their parents
Chappelle's no role model -- but anytime anyone exposes the corrupt, racist entertainment industry that has so many of our black youth HYPNOTIZED then I' got to share that info with others
a few months ago I watched a one-hour video of a white supremacist being interviewed, and he was no role model BUT I learned something that i could use
but i get your point
ME: I agree with much of u said, didn't know about the two kids with a white female,
i refused to watch his show after he did a comedy routine in front of some civil rights footage showing black marchers being bitten by dogs. I was DONE
you're right, his comedy demeans black people and that's why he was offered $50 Million -- we wrote about that in our first book
But, there are lessons to be learned from Chappelle, mainly what happens when a BM does not play "ball" by putting on a dress.
You may not like him, but turning down the $50M comedy central deal -- regardless of what u or i think of his comedy or IR relationships -- said to his fans that 'money is not everything
and black youth never gets that message, not even from their parents
Chappelle's no role model -- but anytime anyone exposes the corrupt, racist entertainment industry that has so many of our black youth HYPNOTIZED then I' got to share that info with others
a few months ago I watched a one-hour video of a white supremacist being interviewed, and he was no role model BUT I learned something that i could use
but i get your point
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