Kalongi, I am not an attention seeker. I was merely stating that you shouldn't try to defend your pre-trib theory(and you ended up doing it anyway even though you said you don't care) because I really don't feel like wasting my time debating you. I wasn't kidding either so this rapture discussion is over 
Phazon, I agree 100%. It's at the 7th trump and I believe that's what scripture shows.
By the way, I believe my post IS in the right section because it is not about the rapture. That comment was just a sidenote and my main focus was on the top of the pyramid (which I believe are the Papal Bloodlines).
Okay, so now let's hear some more people's perspectives on the top of the pyramid, the papal bloodlines, the jesuit council, and the role of occult societies.
Phazon, I agree 100%. It's at the 7th trump and I believe that's what scripture shows.
By the way, I believe my post IS in the right section because it is not about the rapture. That comment was just a sidenote and my main focus was on the top of the pyramid (which I believe are the Papal Bloodlines).
Okay, so now let's hear some more people's perspectives on the top of the pyramid, the papal bloodlines, the jesuit council, and the role of occult societies.
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=54841&view=getnewpost
Nout Wellink
Dr. AHEM Wellink since July 1, 1997 President of the Nederlandsche Bank. Since January 1999, Wellink, a member of the Governing Council of the European Central Bank. He is also president from July 2006 the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision. Wellink has since 1997 on the board of the Bank for International Settlements, which he chaired from 2002 to 2006. He is also a member of the Group of Ten Governors, the meeting of central bank governors of the G-10, and Governor of the International Monetary Fund and member of the Financial Stability Board.
Nout Wellink holds several other positions. He is Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Leiden, Chairman of the Supervisory Board of the Dutch Open Air Museum and a member of the Board of Trustees of the Central Bureau for Genealogy. He received the honorary doctorate from the University of Tilburg. He is a Knight of the Order of the Dutch Lion.
In 1982, Wellink, a member of the Board of DNB. Previously he held various positions in the Ministry of Finance. He was in the period 1970 - 1982 consecutively economic officer, Director, Financial and Economic Policy Committee and Treasurer General. Wellink worked from 1965 to 1970 as a student assistant and research assistant at the Faculty of Economics of the University of Leiden.
Dr. Wellink studied Dutch law at the University of Leiden (1961 - 1968) and Ph.D. in 1975 from Erasmus University Rotterdam PhD in economics. His B-school diploma he earned in 1961. Born: August 27, 1943 to Bredevoort.
Dr. AHEM Wellink since July 1, 1997 President of the Nederlandsche Bank. Since January 1999, Wellink, a member of the Governing Council of the European Central Bank. He is also president from July 2006 the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision. Wellink has since 1997 on the board of the Bank for International Settlements, which he chaired from 2002 to 2006. He is also a member of the Group of Ten Governors, the meeting of central bank governors of the G-10, and Governor of the International Monetary Fund and member of the Financial Stability Board.
Nout Wellink holds several other positions. He is Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Leiden, Chairman of the Supervisory Board of the Dutch Open Air Museum and a member of the Board of Trustees of the Central Bureau for Genealogy. He received the honorary doctorate from the University of Tilburg. He is a Knight of the Order of the Dutch Lion.
In 1982, Wellink, a member of the Board of DNB. Previously he held various positions in the Ministry of Finance. He was in the period 1970 - 1982 consecutively economic officer, Director, Financial and Economic Policy Committee and Treasurer General. Wellink worked from 1965 to 1970 as a student assistant and research assistant at the Faculty of Economics of the University of Leiden.
Dr. Wellink studied Dutch law at the University of Leiden (1961 - 1968) and Ph.D. in 1975 from Erasmus University Rotterdam PhD in economics. His B-school diploma he earned in 1961. Born: August 27, 1943 to Bredevoort.
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QUOTE (me. @ Oct 6 2010, 09:33 AM)
I dont think there is enough evidence to say the "Bloodlines" run the show, as of our current understanding.
There is definetly more evidence at this moment, to suggest that the Jesuits and it's "Black Pope" are at the top of the hierarchy. Obviously serving a Satanic agenda.
I also lean towards the "bloodlines" serving as the Council of Ten under the Black Pope.
-Phazon
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Niall Kilkenny’s Exposure of Rome’s Outrageously Corrupt Jerome’s Latin Vulagate
Posted by EJP on Nov 20th, 2010
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2010/11/ni...latin-vulagate/
Jerome, Author of Corrupt Latin Vulgate of Rome, 385 AD: Foundation for Secret Westcott and Hort Greek Text of 1871 and Modern English Bibles since 1881
Brother Niall Kilkenny is a most mature and confrontational Reformation-Bible believing Protestant Christian. He is the author of a host of excellent articles on his website below. Yesterday, your Editor received the following email as to the utter depravity of the Pope’s Latin Vulgate concocted by anti-Christ, pagan Roman Catholic, “St. Jerome.” Commissioned in 382 AD by Bishop of Rome Damasus I (the first of the Bishops of Rome to use the blasphemous title of “Pontifex Maximus” given over to him by Roman Emperor Gratian), Jerome finished his conspiratorial and subversive Jerome’s Latin Vulgate by the end of the century—he seeking to bring the Old Latin versions of the Word of God into line with Romish pagan doctrines.
This is the same Jerome’s Latin Vulgate that is pronounced to be “the Scriptures” by the Jesuit Order’s damnable Council of Trent. And it this same wicked, Counter Reformation Ecumenical Council of Trent that condemned the Hebrew and Greek true Scriptures given by inspiration of God (II Timothy 3:16). Jerome has played a key part in the devil’s Mystery of Iniquity (II Thessalonians 2:7). For he has been a leading second cause of Satan in his Satanic majesty’s quest of preventing the Hebrew and Greek Word of God from being read by the common peoples in their own language—something that Papal “Church Father” “St. Augustine” also advocated as made known during Rome’s attack and inquisition against John Wycliffe, father of the Lord’s Grand and Glorious English Protestant Reformation!
Please enjoy Brother Kilkenny’s email and post below!
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Dear brother Eric,
Greetings and best wishes.
I am going through the corrupt Latin Vulgate and I am HORRIFIED at what I am finding.
As you know, the Bible issues dire warnings to those who take the Mark of the Beast or become followers of the Pope.
That warning is diluted in several verses and MARK is changed to CHARACTER.
So now we are warned about taking the CHARACTER of the Beast . . . whatever that means!
Jerome filled the Holy Bible with HOLES and all the modern versions follow the Vulgate.
Since the Vulgate is their foundation, we can collapse that whole house of sand by demonstrating its falsehood.
Have a nice weekend.
Niall Kilkenny
http://www.reformation.org/pope-benedict-portrait.html
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=41314
Posted by EJP on Nov 20th, 2010
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2010/11/ni...latin-vulagate/
Jerome, Author of Corrupt Latin Vulgate of Rome, 385 AD: Foundation for Secret Westcott and Hort Greek Text of 1871 and Modern English Bibles since 1881
Brother Niall Kilkenny is a most mature and confrontational Reformation-Bible believing Protestant Christian. He is the author of a host of excellent articles on his website below. Yesterday, your Editor received the following email as to the utter depravity of the Pope’s Latin Vulgate concocted by anti-Christ, pagan Roman Catholic, “St. Jerome.” Commissioned in 382 AD by Bishop of Rome Damasus I (the first of the Bishops of Rome to use the blasphemous title of “Pontifex Maximus” given over to him by Roman Emperor Gratian), Jerome finished his conspiratorial and subversive Jerome’s Latin Vulgate by the end of the century—he seeking to bring the Old Latin versions of the Word of God into line with Romish pagan doctrines.
This is the same Jerome’s Latin Vulgate that is pronounced to be “the Scriptures” by the Jesuit Order’s damnable Council of Trent. And it this same wicked, Counter Reformation Ecumenical Council of Trent that condemned the Hebrew and Greek true Scriptures given by inspiration of God (II Timothy 3:16). Jerome has played a key part in the devil’s Mystery of Iniquity (II Thessalonians 2:7). For he has been a leading second cause of Satan in his Satanic majesty’s quest of preventing the Hebrew and Greek Word of God from being read by the common peoples in their own language—something that Papal “Church Father” “St. Augustine” also advocated as made known during Rome’s attack and inquisition against John Wycliffe, father of the Lord’s Grand and Glorious English Protestant Reformation!
Please enjoy Brother Kilkenny’s email and post below!
________________________________________________
Dear brother Eric,
Greetings and best wishes.
I am going through the corrupt Latin Vulgate and I am HORRIFIED at what I am finding.
As you know, the Bible issues dire warnings to those who take the Mark of the Beast or become followers of the Pope.
That warning is diluted in several verses and MARK is changed to CHARACTER.
So now we are warned about taking the CHARACTER of the Beast . . . whatever that means!
Jerome filled the Holy Bible with HOLES and all the modern versions follow the Vulgate.
Since the Vulgate is their foundation, we can collapse that whole house of sand by demonstrating its falsehood.
Have a nice weekend.
Niall Kilkenny
http://www.reformation.org/pope-benedict-portrait.html
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=41314
King James VI & I has a message
that Rome does not want you to hear.
http://jesus-is-lord.com/kjrome.htm
"Rome is the Seat of the Antichrist."
--King James VI & I
A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"...Popery is in deed The mysterie of iniquitie..."
--King James VI & I
1605 Speech to Parliament
"The Pope is Antichrist..."
--King James VI & I
Meditation Upon Revelation 20:7-10
"Antichrist and his clergie...not only infect the earth...but rule also over the whole..."
--King James VI & I
Meditation Upon Revelation 20:7-10
"...blinde superstition of their errors in Religion... led them to this device [The Gunpowder Plot]..."
--King James VI & I, 1605 Speech to Parliament
"The Scripture forbiddeth to worship the Image of any thing that God created..."
--King James VI & I, A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"...Is it a small corrupting of the Scriptures to make all, or the most part of the Apocrypha of equall faith with the canonicall Scriptures...?"
--King James VI & I, A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"Christ did not promise...to leave Peter with them to direct and instruct them in all things; but he promised to send the holy Ghost for that end."
--King James VI & I, A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"The ground of all true...religion, and...service... that brings salvation...is to bee situate in Jesus Christ onely...Act. 4:12..."
--King James VI & I, Meditation Upon I Chron. 15:25-29
"...as soone as his Maiestie dealt against the Pope, tooke the Cardinall in hand, made the world see the usurped power of the one, and the Sophistry of the other...what a stirre we had; what roaring of the wild Bulls of Basan, what a commotion in every Countrey..."
--James (Bishop of Winton & Publisher of The Workes)
Preface to the Reader, The Workes of King James VI & I
Full Title: The Workes of the Most High and Mightie Prince Iames, By the Grace of God, King of Great Britaine, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, &c.
Published in 1616. Two additional Workes were appended in 1620.
Above quotes taken from Workes page numbers: 310, 504, 78, 75, 503, 304, 316, 306, 86, [d2]
...he being dead, yet speaketh.
King James VI & I is the founding monarch of both Great Britain and the United States, two world superpowers. He is also the man who commissioned the Authorized King James Version of the holy scriptures, the glory of the English language.
The king, once renowned for his immense learning and wisdom, has, through the years, become the object of relentless character attacks. Wild claims have flown from every quarter. Some have even claimed that the king was Roman Catholic when, in actuality, he may have well been Rome's most powerful, deadly, and irreconcilable enemy.
In the absence of a balanced selection of the king's writings, the general populace has been at the mercy of rumors and revisionist historians. But now, after decades in hiding, King James' Workes, a collection of his writings published in 1616, is back in print.
A WARRIOR OF THE FAITH
In 1605, a Roman Catholic conspiracy to blow up King James and Parliament brought the king head-to-head with the pope himself and the great Cardinal Bellarmine, champion of the Roman church. With his tough, pungent prose, King James stirred up all of Europe as he disrobed Rome before their very eyes. He left her bare, naked, and bleeding. It has all been recorded in The Workes.
THE FRUITS OF HIS LABOURS
As a result of the king's writings, Catholics were converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ. According to The Workes, in some countries, Roman Catholic books were burned. Kings across the land began to stand up and assert their right to rule their own kingdoms without papal interference. In this context, a new truth comes to light. King James' now-scorned defense of the divine right of kings was a loud, staunch, effective battering ram against long-standing papal power wielded over kings and kingdoms through Roman Catholic recusancy.
King James' writings dealt such a blow and did so much damage to Roman power that she was driven more underground to work her wiles. King James' Workes is a critically important piece of reformation literature.
ACQUAINTED WITH GRIEF
According to the Bishop of Winton in the Preface to the Reader, the king had to pay a heavy price for his battle--the blows he received were many and grievous. In a moment of somber reflection, the king comments--
"...[I]n case the power and vertue of my aduertisements be not able effectually to worke, at least many millions of children and people yet unborne shall beare me witnesse, that in these dangers of the highest nature and straine, I have not bene defective: and that neither the subversions of States, nor the murthers of Kings, which may unhappily betide hereafter, shall have so free passage in the world for want of timely advertisement before."
--A Remonstrance for the Right of Kings, And The Independance Of Their Crownes
AN ENEMY OF ALL ERRORS
As a defender of the faith and protector of his isle, King James opposed any threat to the gospel of Jesus Christ--whether the threat of witchcraft workers or heretic theologians like D. Conradus Vorstius. King James sought to keep the gospel pure in his kingdom. While treating law-abiding dissenters with fairness and honesty, he made it known that he disagreed with their doctrinal errors.
FRESH INSIGHTS
The Workes contains many fresh truths fit for the consumption of those with ears to hear. The king's meditation upon Matthew 27:27-29, for example, offers a whole new way of seeing the events leading up to the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ. His Basilicon Doron--the Kingly Gift--written to his son, Prince Henry, is full of pearls of wisdom and fatherly advice on kingship. His speeches to Parliament are important sources of precepts for understanding the nature of effective law and government. Read these in The Workes and so much more.
STILL RELEVANT
King James' writings are just as relevant today as they were 400 years ago. Contrary to popular belief, Daniel's fourth kingdom, Rome, never died. It is still around today, only superficially transformed from King James' day--her key characteristics and workings remain, just with different names and under different guises. King James' Workes has keys. It is one witness in a link spanning across the centuries.
that Rome does not want you to hear.
http://jesus-is-lord.com/kjrome.htm
"Rome is the Seat of the Antichrist."
--King James VI & I
A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"...Popery is in deed The mysterie of iniquitie..."
--King James VI & I
1605 Speech to Parliament
"The Pope is Antichrist..."
--King James VI & I
Meditation Upon Revelation 20:7-10
"Antichrist and his clergie...not only infect the earth...but rule also over the whole..."
--King James VI & I
Meditation Upon Revelation 20:7-10
"...blinde superstition of their errors in Religion... led them to this device [The Gunpowder Plot]..."
--King James VI & I, 1605 Speech to Parliament
"The Scripture forbiddeth to worship the Image of any thing that God created..."
--King James VI & I, A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"...Is it a small corrupting of the Scriptures to make all, or the most part of the Apocrypha of equall faith with the canonicall Scriptures...?"
--King James VI & I, A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"Christ did not promise...to leave Peter with them to direct and instruct them in all things; but he promised to send the holy Ghost for that end."
--King James VI & I, A Premonition to All Most Mightie Monarches
"The ground of all true...religion, and...service... that brings salvation...is to bee situate in Jesus Christ onely...Act. 4:12..."
--King James VI & I, Meditation Upon I Chron. 15:25-29
"...as soone as his Maiestie dealt against the Pope, tooke the Cardinall in hand, made the world see the usurped power of the one, and the Sophistry of the other...what a stirre we had; what roaring of the wild Bulls of Basan, what a commotion in every Countrey..."
--James (Bishop of Winton & Publisher of The Workes)
Preface to the Reader, The Workes of King James VI & I
Full Title: The Workes of the Most High and Mightie Prince Iames, By the Grace of God, King of Great Britaine, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, &c.
Published in 1616. Two additional Workes were appended in 1620.
Above quotes taken from Workes page numbers: 310, 504, 78, 75, 503, 304, 316, 306, 86, [d2]
...he being dead, yet speaketh.
King James VI & I is the founding monarch of both Great Britain and the United States, two world superpowers. He is also the man who commissioned the Authorized King James Version of the holy scriptures, the glory of the English language.
The king, once renowned for his immense learning and wisdom, has, through the years, become the object of relentless character attacks. Wild claims have flown from every quarter. Some have even claimed that the king was Roman Catholic when, in actuality, he may have well been Rome's most powerful, deadly, and irreconcilable enemy.
In the absence of a balanced selection of the king's writings, the general populace has been at the mercy of rumors and revisionist historians. But now, after decades in hiding, King James' Workes, a collection of his writings published in 1616, is back in print.
A WARRIOR OF THE FAITH
In 1605, a Roman Catholic conspiracy to blow up King James and Parliament brought the king head-to-head with the pope himself and the great Cardinal Bellarmine, champion of the Roman church. With his tough, pungent prose, King James stirred up all of Europe as he disrobed Rome before their very eyes. He left her bare, naked, and bleeding. It has all been recorded in The Workes.
THE FRUITS OF HIS LABOURS
As a result of the king's writings, Catholics were converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ. According to The Workes, in some countries, Roman Catholic books were burned. Kings across the land began to stand up and assert their right to rule their own kingdoms without papal interference. In this context, a new truth comes to light. King James' now-scorned defense of the divine right of kings was a loud, staunch, effective battering ram against long-standing papal power wielded over kings and kingdoms through Roman Catholic recusancy.
King James' writings dealt such a blow and did so much damage to Roman power that she was driven more underground to work her wiles. King James' Workes is a critically important piece of reformation literature.
ACQUAINTED WITH GRIEF
According to the Bishop of Winton in the Preface to the Reader, the king had to pay a heavy price for his battle--the blows he received were many and grievous. In a moment of somber reflection, the king comments--
"...[I]n case the power and vertue of my aduertisements be not able effectually to worke, at least many millions of children and people yet unborne shall beare me witnesse, that in these dangers of the highest nature and straine, I have not bene defective: and that neither the subversions of States, nor the murthers of Kings, which may unhappily betide hereafter, shall have so free passage in the world for want of timely advertisement before."
--A Remonstrance for the Right of Kings, And The Independance Of Their Crownes
AN ENEMY OF ALL ERRORS
As a defender of the faith and protector of his isle, King James opposed any threat to the gospel of Jesus Christ--whether the threat of witchcraft workers or heretic theologians like D. Conradus Vorstius. King James sought to keep the gospel pure in his kingdom. While treating law-abiding dissenters with fairness and honesty, he made it known that he disagreed with their doctrinal errors.
FRESH INSIGHTS
The Workes contains many fresh truths fit for the consumption of those with ears to hear. The king's meditation upon Matthew 27:27-29, for example, offers a whole new way of seeing the events leading up to the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ. His Basilicon Doron--the Kingly Gift--written to his son, Prince Henry, is full of pearls of wisdom and fatherly advice on kingship. His speeches to Parliament are important sources of precepts for understanding the nature of effective law and government. Read these in The Workes and so much more.
STILL RELEVANT
King James' writings are just as relevant today as they were 400 years ago. Contrary to popular belief, Daniel's fourth kingdom, Rome, never died. It is still around today, only superficially transformed from King James' day--her key characteristics and workings remain, just with different names and under different guises. King James' Workes has keys. It is one witness in a link spanning across the centuries.
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