Amarie on said:
TrojanPam on said:
I was impressed with Wise WHEN I was totally confused, but after I became LESS confused, I realized that NO ONE is allowed to benefit who opposes white supremacy — so if you see ANY black or white person getting book deals and making major network TV appearances or making substantial sums of money off their “counter-racist” work,
then you KNOW they are NOT LEGITIMATE because no one, including the white supremacists are going to PROMOTE or FINANCE anyone who wants to break up their MOB
and that includes financing a candidate for “president’
come on now
then you KNOW they are NOT LEGITIMATE because no one, including the white supremacists are going to PROMOTE or FINANCE anyone who wants to break up their MOB
and that includes financing a candidate for “president’
come on now
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Ellis on said:
On point as usual TrojanPam.
I just thought about mixed-raced families for some reason, and their feelings about the verdict.
Where do Black women/men with White partners or spouses who have or have no children together go from here?
Those Black/White interracial who have children, especially Black boys, what do/ should they teach them about White supremacy and that Black lives are worthless no matter how nice, academically brilliant, articulate they are?
How does the Black parent teach them about White racism/ supremacy and how it destroy and damages every fibre of Blacks spiritually, mentally, emotionally, financially, culturally when their partner is White? Or will the Black parent try to strengthen their Kumbaya beliefs in “post-racial” crap?
I am really curious about Mixed-raced children and how they feel about this situation.
What do you guys think?
I just thought about mixed-raced families for some reason, and their feelings about the verdict.
Where do Black women/men with White partners or spouses who have or have no children together go from here?
Those Black/White interracial who have children, especially Black boys, what do/ should they teach them about White supremacy and that Black lives are worthless no matter how nice, academically brilliant, articulate they are?
How does the Black parent teach them about White racism/ supremacy and how it destroy and damages every fibre of Blacks spiritually, mentally, emotionally, financially, culturally when their partner is White? Or will the Black parent try to strengthen their Kumbaya beliefs in “post-racial” crap?
I am really curious about Mixed-raced children and how they feel about this situation.
What do you guys think?
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- @ Ellis
I was thinking about these black/white couples and wished I could be a fly on that wall, to see how many blacks were speaking honestly and how many whites were going along or opposing them
I do not believe the Verdict will cause any huge exoduses of blacks who are currently sleeping with whites. It might drive a few “under cover” so to speak, but I think their NEED for white validation and that “soothing lotion” is much greater than their desire to break the psychological chains that bind them to white people.
I hope there will be a few at least that walk away from that white partner to REGAIN their SELF-RESPECT (yeah, I went there)
because being in those relationships MANDATES that you LIE to yourself AND lie about your white partner, and like Mr. Fuller says,
Lying to yourself is the HEIGHT of disrespecting yourself
RE the children, in my experience, it depends on the level of white identification and if it is high, like it is in my family, they will try NOT to identify with it personally but will talk about it as though they are a white person
I really don’t know but i’d love to hear from anyone in a relationship like that OR anyone who is a product of a black/white union
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Ms. J on said:
@ Trojan Pam
I agree with you, Trojan Pam. Today I saw a Black man hugging and kissing up on a White female before getting in the car with her. And I have actually seen White females who have male offspring with Black males complain about why people kept bringing up race in regards to the Zimmerman trial.
Some will get the wake-up call, but other’s will not get it.
I agree with you, Trojan Pam. Today I saw a Black man hugging and kissing up on a White female before getting in the car with her. And I have actually seen White females who have male offspring with Black males complain about why people kept bringing up race in regards to the Zimmerman trial.
Some will get the wake-up call, but other’s will not get it.
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TrojanPam on said:
@ Ms J
that white “soothing lotion” against a black reality is too tempting for some to resist. This “attitude” of white partners toward dismissing racism is VERY common in my experience — and the black people seem to become more anti-black and in denial (mentally ill) in order to stay with that white male or female — who in all likelihood is a racist.
Unfortunately, this “blindness” about the increasing overt racism in this nation will be extremely dangerous for black males who are parading their white “choices” up and down the street
I believe these males will be increasingly targeted by white males who feel emboldened by the callous disregard of Trayvon Martin’s life
I believe this is already happening — that some black males are being murdered for being with a white female and the police call it black-on-black crime when it might be something else. It would be extremely easy to get away with it if you are a white person
My attitude is — if you want to be with white people — GO on your way, I don’t have enough time to convince you of what is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE
you will have to figure it out ON YOUR OWN — the best way you can
just get out of my way while you do it
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Ralph
I’ve urged us over the past year to study Hitler and the Nazi regime as a way to “predict” what’s coming next. History isn’t “new”. It’s a continued cycle of events cleverly dressed up and neatly packaged in “new clothing.”
Yes, Dredd Scott does indeed play a role…as does the Esoteric. That is why our melanin is being melted down and injected and ingested for the purpose of power and control.
Hitler new how to rile up the masses. AmeriKlan is the new version of Nazi Germany…we just can’t see it yet. I’ll keep on making references to Hitler, Prescott Bush and the Nazi rise to power because they are DIRECTLY related to our struggles today.
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ew his pic is disgusting, what is up with the one eye closed thing, i see the sell out rappers do it or they have their hand over their mouth. is that illumati ish. anyway I do think this is waking more black ppl up, i hope it wakes the black ppl up who think white females are not as racist, and the blacks who think latinos are for us. Hell no latinos want to be white, remember the vid with those girls talking about black ppl and it was one cuban girl participating. This was like lynching from back in the day, white male kills black male and white women do nothing. idk how many more black youth have to be killed before more black ppl wake up, imo by this point those that choose to remain asleep will perish. If the writing is on the wall and u choose not read it or see it that is on u. It is time to support black businesses and no that doesn’t include the black church. It’s time for us to see that we have to do something we can no longer just pray but take action as well. People need to save money to leave this damned place. WE have no black president nor will we ever have a black president in this country. The whole world can see how corrupt this place is, and are wondering wtf is wrong.
“It was done as yet another way to push forth a White Supremacist Agenda. What is the name of that agenda?
Eugenics”
THis right here is on point, all this stuff has been for that, do they have to come out and say that it is eugenics for ppl to know that it is. If u don’t know what’s going on by now u will never ever know it. Even in brazil they brought in more whites hoping it would lighten up the population, they copy off each other. Remember white folks don’t like coming up with a new plan so they jack it from other ppl, which is what we are seeing. Sadly it works because a lot of ppl are sheep, and will stay asleep until they are put to sleep permanently.
“It was done as yet another way to push forth a White Supremacist Agenda. What is the name of that agenda?
Eugenics”
THis right here is on point, all this stuff has been for that, do they have to come out and say that it is eugenics for ppl to know that it is. If u don’t know what’s going on by now u will never ever know it. Even in brazil they brought in more whites hoping it would lighten up the population, they copy off each other. Remember white folks don’t like coming up with a new plan so they jack it from other ppl, which is what we are seeing. Sadly it works because a lot of ppl are sheep, and will stay asleep until they are put to sleep permanently.
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The Verdict……….This Zimmerman verdict is another of many signs for us Blacks to unite as one & to seriously think about whether or not the US is a place for us to stay & live here. This may be a time to seriously think about a possible Exodus out of the US & start over again with our own nation. We have the people, we have the skills, & we have the talent to rebuild. If we had our own communities during slavery, jim crow, & civil rights eras, then we can do it again. Many of our ancestors built America & as a nation within a nation, we continue to build America everyday. Our culture has influenced this country in so many ways. Everybody is making money off of us BUT US. So why can’t we do it again? But then again, the question becomes, do we want to come together as a united front, despite the differences we may have, or do we want to continue, shuffling, jiving, partying, dancing, laughing, etc. because we think everything is going to be all right?
An Exodus………….An Exodus is coming for Black Americans whether we want to accept it or not. This case, as well as other cases, have been, & are already setting the stage for this. Don’t be surprised about the increase in jails due to minor offenses (i.e. concentration camps)- the spirit of Jim Crow at work; Voting Rights; & now I’m waiting for the dogs/water hoses to start coming out again. History continuously repeats itself in each age/era & so the idea of an Exodus should not be seen as being a far reach. If you are Black, regardless of your economic status, education, ties to the community, etc., it doesn’t make a difference, no one is exempt. Do we stay in America or think about leaving? You don’t have to believe me or accept it, but it is coming.
But Until Then…….
A. We need unification within our Black nation, whether we live in urban areas, suburban areas, and/or rural areas; economic development: creation/support of co-ops & our own businesses; use micro-financing and/or crowd sourcing to fund our own economic/community projects; & the pooling of resources where everybody contributes & receives.
B. Something I learned from being around other ethnic groups in Southern Cali, have a VSL, aka Village Savings & Loan where the group pools money/resources, helps each member (family or otherwise) set up a business/project, & once it is established, then work on setting up other businesses/projects for other members (learned this during microfinance summits).
C. We can home school our children or create our own learning institutions, even if it starts out as additional teaching outside the school system; have big block parties, where everybody gets fed, & there is food left over for everybody to have something to eat for the week; help those Blacks that can be helped; & any other meaningful actions that encourages/support our people.
Conclusion…….There are some Blacks who have left the US already living in Israel, South Africa, etc., & others planning on leaving. Something to think about & start making preparations.
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Bry on said:
“That anyone, anywhere can now claim “self-defense”, and kill our mothers, our grandmas, our 2 year old nephews or us in the name of “protecting white life.” This experiment, which was televised and blown up on purpose, was not done for naught. It was done as yet another way to push forth a White Supremacist Agenda. What is the name of that agenda?
Eugenics.”
Our answer to that threat never changes, it’s always self-respect, self-knowledge and unity.
Eugenics.”
Our answer to that threat never changes, it’s always self-respect, self-knowledge and unity.
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Tyrone on said:
@Negress
As you correctly stated, we have no real friends on this planet but ourselves. We focus a lot of attention on GZ’s white jewish father and ignore the fact that his mother is of native-american descent(hispanic identified). I didn’t see a lot of spanish folk speaking out against Zimmerman either. All of our so-called allies showed their true colors, but, why are we surprised? Negress, i’ve never been one of those black people that are quick to include others in our struggle, because, they use our blood, sweat, and tears to get ahead at our expense. To hell with everybody else, we gotta put us first. I can’t believe so many of us actually believed that whites had changed for the better. What was the civil-rights movement really about? In hindsight, it was more about advancing the causes of other folks that don’t look like us. To understand the trickery that got us back in quicksand, we must take a deeper look at the Integration Movement and Black Power Movement of the 1960s. The dogma of Dr. King gave us false hope, which resulted in us letting our guard down. The Black Power Movement brainwashed blackmen to get in bed with those that enslaved our people…Spaniards & Arabs. Both groups of men spit in our faces with no shame. Arabs are supposed to be so Islamic, yet, they sell alcohol and cigs to black people, which are killing us. Spanish men have convinced blackmen to ignore the fact that they are the s**t-starters of all the wickedness. Kissing our ass like it’s going out of style, yet, many spanish blacks hate their african ancestry…What Friends? Blacks in Africa are being killed in the name of Islam, blackmen in Cali and NY are being killed by mexican and puerto-rican gangs because they hate blackmen. Yes, all of this is related to the death of Treyvon Martin and other sistas and brothas. We keep assuming that other folk got our back when it’s not the case. Zimmerman can call himself hispanic all he wants, his jewish forefathers know who they are. The frauds in our race must be exposed to the masses. Black males in the hood killing other black males because they’re trying to “Keep It Real.” Wanting to be so black that they end up hating that which they claim to love…Reverse Psychology!
The flip side of the coin, the Uncle Tom blackmen are so afraid to be black that they make young brothas in the hood afraid to be smart, well spoken, respectful, and practical. As a result, we have a generation of blackwomen that have no respect for blackmen, which cuts blackmen even deeper. Other men s**t on us, blackwomen don’t like us, no economic infrastructure, death and chaos in every hood, afraid to have babies because of hiv/aids, Africa in turmoil, etc. The killing of Treyvon Martin is set against this backdrop. Black politicians, preachers, and professors keep us enslaved to lies. A black president in the White House, So What? He has no real power, just a mouthpiece for his Puppetmasters. Whitewomen aren’t as bad as whitemen, Really? The OJ Crowd should be proud of themselves, all the time, money, and energy invested in Becky for nothing. This was a black and white case like Rodney King, yet, they still found Zimmerman Not Guilty…Not Shocked! The irony is amazing…a jury comprised of blackwomen let OJ walk free despite him not even liking blackwomen. Yet, a jury full of whitewomen couldn’t come thru for a dead 17 year old young man that whitewomen would have been lusting after if he was still alive…Think About It? And some of us have the nerve to talk smack about blackwomen. When push comes to shove, whitewomen always follow behind whitemen. Not just with this trial, but, other cases as well. I mention this because many pundits mistakenly believed that the jury composition would benefit the State…So Wrong! Blackmen are so stupid, we’re being killed by whitemen the world over while continuing to chase white tail just the same…C_____ville!!!
Ty
As you correctly stated, we have no real friends on this planet but ourselves. We focus a lot of attention on GZ’s white jewish father and ignore the fact that his mother is of native-american descent(hispanic identified). I didn’t see a lot of spanish folk speaking out against Zimmerman either. All of our so-called allies showed their true colors, but, why are we surprised? Negress, i’ve never been one of those black people that are quick to include others in our struggle, because, they use our blood, sweat, and tears to get ahead at our expense. To hell with everybody else, we gotta put us first. I can’t believe so many of us actually believed that whites had changed for the better. What was the civil-rights movement really about? In hindsight, it was more about advancing the causes of other folks that don’t look like us. To understand the trickery that got us back in quicksand, we must take a deeper look at the Integration Movement and Black Power Movement of the 1960s. The dogma of Dr. King gave us false hope, which resulted in us letting our guard down. The Black Power Movement brainwashed blackmen to get in bed with those that enslaved our people…Spaniards & Arabs. Both groups of men spit in our faces with no shame. Arabs are supposed to be so Islamic, yet, they sell alcohol and cigs to black people, which are killing us. Spanish men have convinced blackmen to ignore the fact that they are the s**t-starters of all the wickedness. Kissing our ass like it’s going out of style, yet, many spanish blacks hate their african ancestry…What Friends? Blacks in Africa are being killed in the name of Islam, blackmen in Cali and NY are being killed by mexican and puerto-rican gangs because they hate blackmen. Yes, all of this is related to the death of Treyvon Martin and other sistas and brothas. We keep assuming that other folk got our back when it’s not the case. Zimmerman can call himself hispanic all he wants, his jewish forefathers know who they are. The frauds in our race must be exposed to the masses. Black males in the hood killing other black males because they’re trying to “Keep It Real.” Wanting to be so black that they end up hating that which they claim to love…Reverse Psychology!
The flip side of the coin, the Uncle Tom blackmen are so afraid to be black that they make young brothas in the hood afraid to be smart, well spoken, respectful, and practical. As a result, we have a generation of blackwomen that have no respect for blackmen, which cuts blackmen even deeper. Other men s**t on us, blackwomen don’t like us, no economic infrastructure, death and chaos in every hood, afraid to have babies because of hiv/aids, Africa in turmoil, etc. The killing of Treyvon Martin is set against this backdrop. Black politicians, preachers, and professors keep us enslaved to lies. A black president in the White House, So What? He has no real power, just a mouthpiece for his Puppetmasters. Whitewomen aren’t as bad as whitemen, Really? The OJ Crowd should be proud of themselves, all the time, money, and energy invested in Becky for nothing. This was a black and white case like Rodney King, yet, they still found Zimmerman Not Guilty…Not Shocked! The irony is amazing…a jury comprised of blackwomen let OJ walk free despite him not even liking blackwomen. Yet, a jury full of whitewomen couldn’t come thru for a dead 17 year old young man that whitewomen would have been lusting after if he was still alive…Think About It? And some of us have the nerve to talk smack about blackwomen. When push comes to shove, whitewomen always follow behind whitemen. Not just with this trial, but, other cases as well. I mention this because many pundits mistakenly believed that the jury composition would benefit the State…So Wrong! Blackmen are so stupid, we’re being killed by whitemen the world over while continuing to chase white tail just the same…C_____ville!!!
Ty
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Ms. J on said:
I forgot to add that no matter which other non-whites are in this country or on this planet, BLACK people will be the primary target of RWS. If we suddenly disappear as a group, then that may change, but people of direct African descent are the most hated and mistreated.
This article is proof of that:
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/07/13/stand-your-ground-laws-increases-racial-bias-in-justifiable-homicide-trials/
This article is proof of that:
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/07/13/stand-your-ground-laws-increases-racial-bias-in-justifiable-homicide-trials/
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Adeen on said:
Well said. They are scared because they know their numbers are dwindling so they have to instill fear into us because they fear we will take over. They are scared, trust me. This country is going to hell in a handbasket
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mzchocosensualhedbob on said:
Black on Black crime is indeed an issue, like many others in the Black community but I’m convinced that government agents are also killing young Black males and making it look like the murders are gang related. A percentage of the killings in Chicago for e.g. may be down to skilled marksmen and not young boys yielding guns.
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TY
You think Sean Hannity was for Black people? IMAO, he works around rightwing nutjobs on Faux News. He is most likely just as racist as his Conservatard counterparts. I don’t like him or the GOP.
Why in the world were you in the GOP? Most of the Whites in that party are racists.
As a Black woman, I am Liberal in my views but I am a Independent. I hate both Democratic and Republican parties. You are right not to give allegiance to either party because I know I am not. Both parties aren’t out for the interests of Black men and women.
I think forming our own nation is a good idea but how many Blacks would actually help us build another nation? Or even agree with the decision?
You think Sean Hannity was for Black people? IMAO, he works around rightwing nutjobs on Faux News. He is most likely just as racist as his Conservatard counterparts. I don’t like him or the GOP.
Why in the world were you in the GOP? Most of the Whites in that party are racists.
As a Black woman, I am Liberal in my views but I am a Independent. I hate both Democratic and Republican parties. You are right not to give allegiance to either party because I know I am not. Both parties aren’t out for the interests of Black men and women.
I think forming our own nation is a good idea but how many Blacks would actually help us build another nation? Or even agree with the decision?
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TrojanPam on said:
I’d like to add a number 4
4. Do not be taken in by the whites who appear to support our causes. It doesn’t matter if they’re sincere or not, their presence in marches and protests ONLY CONFUSES THE VICTIMS (us) and keeps black people locked into that “Good White People Syndrome” and their presence at rallies and marches has NEVER stopped a single incident of racism OR saved the life of a single Trayvon Martin, so their participation is USELESS at best, HARMFUL at worst.
I also believe some of the white faces are PLANTS in the crowds and protests for that reason: To make black people LOSE FOCUS on the real problem (racism/white supremacy AKA white people) and lose the EMOTIONAL DISTANCE necessary to do what is necessary.
We must develop some EMOTIONAL DISTANCE from whites regardless of how physically close they are at work, school, etc. — the SAME way a white family can hire a black maid but still recognize that she is NOT their equal (is not white)
because if they started seeing her as a REAL person, like themselves, they wouldn’t be able to exploit her and mistreat her as a black person without having a severe attack of conscience.
that’s also why HAVING SEX WITH WHITES IS A NO-NO because there is NO WAY you can fight white supremacy by day and sleep with it at night.
I agree with your statement and have seen NO EVIDENCE that disproves it:
“We have no friends, no allies, no sympathizers in this fight. Everyone uses us to better themselves while calling us Niggers behind our backs ( and sometimes to our faces ). All they want is our money and our black bodies…and we give it to them freely hoping to have “friends. Unity is our cure for white supremacy.”
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