My Response on Khazar Lies

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This is your response to the Koestler thesis. However this is a more accurate description of the hoax that is the bible. Jews and Israelis USE THE BIBLE to invalidate people from their right to live where they have for centuries.

-Antisionist

My response:

Atheists use the hoax of atheism to demonize the Bible. Although, tons of historical places, events, and occurences, in the hundreds are confirmed by many archaelogists. Also, you omit my other words refuting Koestler's half truths and lies. I've wrote other long responses before about how the Askhenazi lived in Europe before the Khazars came into Eastern Europe and the continous presence of Hebrews in Israel for over 2,000 years before (as outlined in the book entitled "From Time Immemorial"). The links and other sources outline that. We can agree to disagree on this issue as human beings. There is nothing wrong with that. Although, you are wrong to say that the Bible is a fraud. It's based on real events from the Cladius explusion to the invasion of Cyrus of Persia. Of course, idiom and symbolism are in it. Yet, it's based on the existence of a real God in the Universe. There is nothing wrong with Jewish people or any people living in where they want to.Demonizing the Bible in that way will never intimidate me since I'm confortable in my own belief system. It's ironic since you says "Jews" since Jews aren't monolithic. Many Jewish people like you hate religion and the Bible. Many Jewish people support Zionism and oppose Zionism. So, making a broad generalization like that isn't true. Also, many Israelis wants real peace with the Palestinians. Also, Palestine is word coined by the Roman Empire to invalidate the right of the Jewish people to live in Israel. Yes, the Philistines (and Canaan) existed, but the modern word of Palestine came later in the time of the Roman Empire. Many extremists want to disregard Jewish people and all people the right to live in where they want to live. Also, I appear to more than a biblical argument in outlining my views. I outline also to historical arguments as well. Like I mentioned before, it's bigger than the Hyksos.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a009.html

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-archaeology-support-the-bible

This is the link.

(This links shows evidence of King David's existence)

By Timothy

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What I said was that the Zionists who colonized Palestine knew that Jews were the minority and that they knew they were wiping out and were at war with an arab MAJORITY. Zionist Jews admitted this as you can plainly see.

-AntiSionist




My Response: What I response is that only a minority of Zionists were involved in evil deeds like that toward Arabs. The fact that Jews continously lived in the land for thousands of years, paid money, and Arabs selling money to Jews hasn't been refuted. The vast majority of Jewish people in that region weren't seeking a blood lust in driving Arabic people out of that land (neither trying to kill them). Some Zionists were like that though.


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You claim you feel for the Palestinians yet you will invoke the bible to justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestine that occured because God gave them that land. Yet you say you don't agree with ethnic cleansing. Well since ethnic cleansing was the only way to take control of that land, you are trying to have your cake and eat it too. Either God condoned the ethnic cleansing and wanted the Zionist Jews to do it, or he did not.

-Antisionist



My Response: That's a lie. I never invokef the Bible to try to justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians at all. Please show me a direct quote of that. I said people have a right to peacefully live where they want to live. Take control? Peaceful means or earning land is always an easy solution to accomplish. I'm not having cake and eating it too. The reason is that God doesn't support ethnic cleansing and voluntarily living in where you want is fine. So, don't put words into my mouth. Also, you can't use the Christian card, because many Christians reject Palestinian oppression.


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What permission was asked of the arabs for the Jews to come in decades ago and displace hundreds of thousands of them with assault rape and murder? None.

-Antisionist



My Response: That's another half truth. Many Jewish people paid money to settle in the land. Many Jewish migrants into Israel asked permission to live in Israel. Like I said before, some Zionists did act in corruption against Arabic people. That isn't justified at all. Also, many Arabic displacements in 1948 was caused by Middle Eastern leaders who lied to the Arabic people that Israel would be easily defeated in 1948 (as explained by Khaled al-`Azm, who served as Prime Minister of Syria in 1948 and 1949). Also, rape and murder occured in both sides. You know this. One example is the Nazi ally al-Husseini organizing riots to kill Jewish people from the 1930's-1940's.


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I think you mean to say that many Jews were happy living in Iraq, but that underground Zionist terrorists terrorized them to convince them to try and go to Israel and help push out further arabs. Naeim Giladi, an Iraqi Jew exposed this and what Ben Gurion was up to.

-Antisionist



My Response: What are you talking about. Even if Giladi's story is true, I don't support Ben Gurion at all. He was a traitor to race (as connected to Labor Zionism) and a criminal as proven by barry Chamish. Now, part of the over 800,000 displaced Jewish people didn't just come from Iraq. They also came from North Africa where Arabic leaders used progroms to kill Jews. These progroms existed in Yemeni where Jewish people migrated into Israel because of those oppression. So, it's deeper than that.

By Timothy