Interventionism

From http://www.truthmove.org/forum/topic/559/page/2
http://911blogger.com/node/10634


Thank you Robin Hordon, and CX for the heads up.
This certainly belongs here as this forum is one of the only movement venues where this opinion is being openly discussed.

As Jan, and others here have recently stated, this movement should concern everyone regardless of their political orientation. So for that reason, we hope for the participation of people on the right. However, as this movement is about concerns greater than our personal or even national ideology, all of us are required to sideline our own ideology in the interest of pursuing mutual concerns. So while we might welcome Libertarians for 9/11 truth, we would expect them, like everyone else, to express that concern in some way independent of their politics.

TruthMove addresses many concerns in addition to 9/11 truth, but we feel that they all relate around our mutual and non-partisan concern for informed consent. I suppose you could call all of it some kind of ideology. Its difficult for us to see this objectively from the inside. We welcome that kind of critique.

But we are trying to stick to the facts, and be reasonable, while keeping our bias in check. And that's all we hope for from others.

Ron Paul says nothing that I find consonant with the movements most basic principles. The position that industry should regulate itself is retro-active. That's what we had, more or less, from the time of the industrial revolution, let's say 1500, up to the beginning of the 20th century.

The [Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire of 1911], the worst of its kind in New York City history, prompted adoption of some of the era's most stringent workplace safety laws and crystallized efforts to unionize garment workers. It also forced lawmakers to begin enforcing strict building codes after years of negligence by corrupt politicians. http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/03/26/fire.la...

Corruption. Profit over safety. Its all happening overseas now. Toxic jobs that you can only do for 8 years before retiring at 23 totally disabled. Cheap products for Walmart. We don't have to look at the misery. Ron Paul's isolationisms is a myth that he propagates actively. The iron hand of US industry around the world is an intervention that provides us all great benefit, including Ron Paul. And deregulating industry would predictably involve more intervention, and greater misery around the world. Certainly more wealth for a few. Possibly greater comfort for us at home.

Does he really mean to reap the spoils of our international economic conquest, and then act as if our overt/military intervention is any worse? To put it dramatically, he doesn't care if they starve to death, but would rather they not be bombed. Unacceptable.

Ron Paul has nothing to do with 9/11 truth. So it is apparent to many that a 9/11 truth group would look surprisingly partisan, and off-topic, in making such a political endorsement. However, rather than fighting against the representations we see here, let's take them at face value. WeAreChange expresses Libertarian themes and values alongside 9/11 truth. They always have. Beyond our agreement or not with Libertarianism here is our concern for effective promotional strategy.

Bottom Line: Their demographic appeal is very narrow. Take all the people receptive to 9/11 truth. Then subtract people who don't like Alex Jones. Then subtract people over 35. Then subtract people who don't support Ron Paul. Then subtract people who don't agree with their strategy. What are you left with? Is this an expansive vision for change?

Who knows where this will all lead? I hope that we will find that Change is capable of changing.

-truthmover