http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/4357-a-progressive-rebuttal-to-ishmael-reed
http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/ishmael-reed-amiri-baraka-and-black-radical-dilemma
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2010-12-24 08:04
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EC I READ MR REED's NY-TIMES PIECE You Referenced;
Nixakliel - 01/14/2011 - 08:30
EC: I read Mr Ishmael Reed's NY-Times piece you referenced [ www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/opinion/12reed.html?_r=2&hp ] with him 'checking' {white}'progressive' critics of Obama. I suspect Mr Reed is savvy enough to know how this plays into keeping people locked into the US' 'liberal vs conservative / Dems vs GOP poly-trickal paradigm's box [trap]. This is why organizations like BAR are so important- so that Obama & other Corp Dems [Black as well as white] can be called-out from a Progressive Black Perspective [it would be more difficult for Mr Reed to play the 'Race-Card' critique when defending Obama against Black progressive / independent critics]. Mr Reed saying that a progressive challenge to an Obama re-run in 2012 would be a dumb repeat of what happened to Carter in 1980 - ignores that fact that Carter got 'October Surprised' by Reagan & [Mr CIA / Skull{duggery} & Bones] Bush Sr [Bush Jr & Obama's Defense Sec Bob Gates was in on it too] in 1980 [w the Iran Hostage Situation - but then that would be promoting 'Conspiracy Theory']. The Dems also used this same kind of rhetoric to demonize Ralph Nader's 2000 run - making him the blame for Bush getting into the White House - while ignoring the fact that the Bushites HIJACKED the election, the Supreme Court [curiously] stopped FL's recount & Gore managed to lose both his & Slick Willie's home states of TN & AR [not to speak of the CBC's futile challenge to the Bush Selection- because they couldn't get even one so-called 'liberal' Senator to endorse it {IE: Kennedy, Kerry, Sanders, Feingold, Wellstone, Biden, Durbin, Boxer, Feinstein, etc... ALL Went MIA]! Plus- just as many on the so-called liberal / left assumed that there would be a dramatic change in course w Obama's election from the Bush-Cheney-NeoCons' agenda- which hasn't happened; establishment liberals assume that things would have been so much different w a Pres Gore instead of Bush. However- If the official 9-11 story has any validity [& that's a mighty BIG IF], Gore would have almost certainly went storming off to the hills, valleys & caves of Afghanistan in search of that 'Phantom Al-Qaeda Menace' – at very least! Plus these liberal pundits seem to forget that not only was Gore a Clinton Corp Dem, but also that Joe Lieberman was Gore's Running Mate!!! So how about this scenario- On 9-11 Pres Gore is taken out by an attack on Air-Force One -or- whatever that hit the Pentagon crashes into Pres Gore's Oval Office instead. Thus Lieberman would have been the post 9-11 Pres. Would things really have been so much different under Lieberman than what occurred under Bush??? Would he not have gone after the Afghan Taliban, Saddam in Iraq, & even bomb-bomb-bombed Iran [in the words of Lieberman's GOOD-FRIEND JOHN {insane}McCAIN - who he backed vs Obama in 2008- hell he probably would have picked McCain as HIS VP] all in the name of the 'War on Terror' & 'Spreading Democracy' - the same way Bush DID!!??
Mr Reed's assertion that Blacks & Browns know what its like to be jobless- as the reason they're still supporting Obama- as if Obama has put millions of Black & Browns backed to work when official unemployment is approx 10% {its between 17% - 20% for Blacks} would be funny if it weren't so serious!!! Mr Reed seems to be stuck [on stupid] that- because Obama is dark-skinned - this means he's a real 'Black' Leader. But, as Dr Boyce Watkins says, Obama seems adverse to even speak of / to Blacks &/or poor folks - [seems he's bought into this Obama / Post-Racial Era HYPE / BS]. Now of course Obama is the Pres for all people in the US -BUT- what good does it do Black folks to have a 'Black Pres' who won't even speak on / to issues that affect us so much - let alone do something about them!!! Its long past time for mere Negro Tokenism [Ya'll got a Black face in the Big-House now - so Ya'll ought to be satisfied & happy now - so now stop Ya'll's Bitchin {IE: making demands- no matter how legitimate]!
Mr Reed's assertion that Blacks & Browns know what its like to be jobless- as the reason they're still supporting Obama- as if Obama has put millions of Black & Browns backed to work when official unemployment is approx 10% {its between 17% - 20% for Blacks} would be funny if it weren't so serious!!! Mr Reed seems to be stuck [on stupid] that- because Obama is dark-skinned - this means he's a real 'Black' Leader. But, as Dr Boyce Watkins says, Obama seems adverse to even speak of / to Blacks &/or poor folks - [seems he's bought into this Obama / Post-Racial Era HYPE / BS]. Now of course Obama is the Pres for all people in the US -BUT- what good does it do Black folks to have a 'Black Pres' who won't even speak on / to issues that affect us so much - let alone do something about them!!! Its long past time for mere Negro Tokenism [Ya'll got a Black face in the Big-House now - so Ya'll ought to be satisfied & happy now - so now stop Ya'll's Bitchin {IE: making demands- no matter how legitimate]!
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Well Noted & Said Beverly...
Nixakliel - 05/21/2012 - 07:43
Seems all Dims [IE: Obama & Slick Willie] have to do to be called 'liberal' is say they're pro 'gay' marriage & abortion- no matter how anti working class [IE: NAFTA & RTTT- which is an assault on teachers who are up-to 80% women], anti-poor people, pro- war / US Imperialism / MIISC, pro- Prison Industrial Complex / mass incarceration, etc- their policies actually are. Obama has NO constituency more loyal to him than Black folks- yet he has no problem ending DADT & supporting 'gay' marriage, but hardly even mentions Black & poor people!
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Main-stream feminists groups IE: NOW & FMA are seemingly tickled pink over Obama 'coming out' for 'gay' marriage- [& their pro-abortion positions are well known]. But RE: the NCLB & RTTT assault on teachers [whose ranks are up-to 80% women] & their unions- it seems that NOW & FMA have NO [official] position. Nor do they seem to have one for this aggregious case RE a Black woman:
In FL, where Zimmerman is using FL's 'Stand Your Ground' law for his defense [excuse] in gunning-down an un-armed Trayvon Martin, apparently that law doesn't apply to Black Women 'Standing Their Ground' vs an attacker In Their Own Home- even though NO-One was even shot- let alone killed! Marissa Alexander's husband [on whom she sought a restraining order] flew into a violent rage and tried to strangle her. She fled to her car, but forgot her keys. She grabbed pistol from the garage and returned to the house to get them. When her husband came after her again, she fired -- into the ceiling. The warning shot made him back off. No one was hurt- YET she got 20yrs mandatory for aggravated assault!!! By comparison- even if Z-man is convicted for 2nd murder RE Trayvon it's likely he'll get no more than 20 - 30yrs!
Why is it that NOW & FMA are seemingly MIA / AWOL on all these issues- which seemingly primarily affect Black & Brown women??? When do these poly-trickal groups take on women's issues not merely because it suits their narrow / rigid political agenda- But because it's the Right Thing to DO??!!
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Main-stream feminists groups IE: NOW & FMA are seemingly tickled pink over Obama 'coming out' for 'gay' marriage- [& their pro-abortion positions are well known]. But RE: the NCLB & RTTT assault on teachers [whose ranks are up-to 80% women] & their unions- it seems that NOW & FMA have NO [official] position. Nor do they seem to have one for this aggregious case RE a Black woman:
In FL, where Zimmerman is using FL's 'Stand Your Ground' law for his defense [excuse] in gunning-down an un-armed Trayvon Martin, apparently that law doesn't apply to Black Women 'Standing Their Ground' vs an attacker In Their Own Home- even though NO-One was even shot- let alone killed! Marissa Alexander's husband [on whom she sought a restraining order] flew into a violent rage and tried to strangle her. She fled to her car, but forgot her keys. She grabbed pistol from the garage and returned to the house to get them. When her husband came after her again, she fired -- into the ceiling. The warning shot made him back off. No one was hurt- YET she got 20yrs mandatory for aggravated assault!!! By comparison- even if Z-man is convicted for 2nd murder RE Trayvon it's likely he'll get no more than 20 - 30yrs!
Why is it that NOW & FMA are seemingly MIA / AWOL on all these issues- which seemingly primarily affect Black & Brown women??? When do these poly-trickal groups take on women's issues not merely because it suits their narrow / rigid political agenda- But because it's the Right Thing to DO??!!
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It does not make any sense as usual.
Again that is ONE among how many French Cycling Athletes? Yeah that's what I thought. There aren't many Blacks in Equestrian clubs because there aren't many black Equestrian athletes. So thanks for proven my point YET again that there are NOT MANY black athletes found in the European Olympic Aquatics teams, or Fencing teams or the Equestrian teams, or the Cycling teams, or the Archery teams, or the Rowing teams, or the Sailing teams, or the Gymnastic teams, etc just to name a few.
That right there proves what a racist you are, even though you try to hide it, you are no better then Tom.
And you skip the reasons, not very brilliant for your white supremacist friends, why Black people are not present or very few in these specific and mostly high class games.
For ex. how swimming pools were under a strict Jim Crow segregation and so few Blacks in the USA had the opportunity to share into that.
It's also not a big surprise that classical fencing, typically European, has not attracted many people outside the Continent or the Equestrian sport.
i suspect that you will find hardly one white athlete in Senegalese traditional fight for the same reason.
That being said, my examples are a stinging slap in your face because they show high level Black athletes can physically and mentally succeed in these white tailored sports when they are given the chance and good training conditions.
Your white supremacist ideology is defeated again. The whitey world you cherish so much is going down : none of your posts on Afam Topix will change that long distance trend. The white cycle is going to its end.
i forgot the link :
http://www.melty.fr/jo-2012-la-francaise-laur...
Have a look on Black Europe today.
a whiteboi
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I read somewhere that it cost $50,000 a year to keep a person in prison. Wouldn't it be better to spend that money on education and jobs programs, so that they won't end up turning to crime? The Republican way of catering to the rich, while dumping on the rest of us, is killing this country, and if it continues all will be lost.