Ron Paul on the Civil War

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-paul-made-south-was-right-civil-war-speech-with-confederate-flag/

This article is interesting. Ron Paul supports secession and claimed that slavery could end by buying up slaves. I don't agree with that since injustice ought to end immediately by fighting or strong intervention. Bribing away crimes is still bribery. Some of the supporters of Ron Paul agree with small, private businesses discriminating people on race. They believe private instruments can do it, because they aren't created by the federal government. I disagree with this assumption, because private businesses can't do fraud, they can't murder, and they can't do perjury. Therefore, private businesses are limited in their conduct by many laws including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Ron Paul supporters mention that Jim Crow and slavery were state functions. They were, but private groups like the Klan harmed black people's rights. Private groups have done slavery before. The White Citizens Council is a private group. The neo-Nazis is a private group too. Also, private corporations today have promote GMOs, torture, forced slavery, and other evils now in 2012. Therefore, the state and private groups can't be nihilistic and do whatever it wants to. Human rights trump property rights. These laws were created to protect human rights and to allow people to live in whatever location they desire (not to force people to give up their liberties from the Bill of Rights). Also, if you live in every square inch of America (whether in private or public locations), you are bounded under the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Just because you are in a private restaurant, doesn't mean that your human rights are negated period.

By Timothy


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siditty3 hours ago

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. "-Alexander Stephens, Vice President of The Confederacy

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owlywowly3 hours ago

How can the poster think Paul is not a racist? The SOUTH started the war, they clearly initiated hostilities because they were angry at the Northern States not honoring the Dred Scott decision, which made it a crime to not return fleeing slaves. Just read S.Car. articles of war, and you will see that Slavery was FRONT AND CENTER of the Southern reason for INITIATING hostilities. No matter what sort of hokey-poo Dr. Paul has to offer, the SOUTH started the war, the SOUTH attacked Washington, the SOUTH attacked Ft. Sumter.

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owlywowly3 hours agoin reply to Peace_of_Mind

Maybe you should join with Paul and the other Texas traitors and start referring to Slavery as the "Atlantic Triangular Trade," and stop calling them "slaves," but instead, like in the new text books created by Paul's constituents, call them "Atlantic Triangular Trade workers." Also, your history is a little screwed up...the SOUTH attacked the NORTH, not the other way around, and they laid waste to northern Virginia and attacked Washington. In fact, the North wasn't even AWARE it was at war for almost two years. Talk about REVISIONIST HISTORY.

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owlywowly3 hours agoin reply to HarloweThrombey

It's not pandering...it's CODE. Code that only racists hear, and others can blithely ignore. How do you figure that voting against the Civil Rights Act, being against anti-discrimination enforcement and being against unions doesn't make Paul a racist?

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DominicCote6 hours ago

"Secession" many neo-Confederates openly advocate the resecession of the Southern states and territories which comprised the old Confederate States of America. The League of the South, for example, promotes the "independence of the Southern people" from the "American empire". Most neo-Confederate groups do not seek violent revolution, but rather an orderly separation, such as was done in the division of Czechoslovakia. Many Neo-Confederate groups have prepared for what they view as a possible collapse of the federal United States into its 50 separate states, much like the Soviet Union collapsed, and believe the Confederacy can be resurrected at that time. The Civil Rights Movement neo-Confederates adopt a paleoconservative or libertarian view of the Civil Rights Movement. Some Neo-Confederates view the Civil War as a conflict between a secular North and a Christian South. Certain Neo-Confederates believe in a Celtic identity theory for residents of the South, with residents of the North being mostly English. So as the South may ask to succeed again and the North will hold them as slaves to a society it wishes not to associate with. Is it so unwise to not want to sink with the fiat currency.

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zZaius wrote:

Republicans would eat insects and live in the woods before taking a handout from the federal government. Democrats believe 'some' help from the federal government is actually necessary to exist.
It is not 'the white race' that is getting weaker. It is white people that have embraced the failed policies of egalitarianism and the teachings of Karl Marx.

This is pure nonsense and doesn't fit very well with the progressive mantra that 'race is a social construct', but don't let that stop you from telling us about the size of your genitalia or how you sexed my mother...!

Yeah right! Corporations don't mind getting handouts, obviously. The difference between the parties is WHO gets the handouts, and how much! Republicans want to take from everyone and give to the rich. This isn't debateable... the Iraq war was a vivid example of them doing just that.

The 1% have robbed society massively. To demand an end to this is asking for justice, not handouts. Demanding that decent wages be paid, controlling outsourcing, etc.... not handouts.

I would support regulations which require corporations to obey USA labor and environmental laws even outside of the USA! No more taking advantage of corporate and USA-supported dictators to keep 3rd world workers in slavery in USA corporate sweatshops! Watch how fast this crap stops if they have to behave like that.

Idiotic dupes like Zaius will go on wailing the usual dittohead cliches about handouts and Marx and such BS but the failed policies which got us into this mess are, in a word:

REAGANOMICS!!!

Not recognizing this constitutes stupidity.

-Savant

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LUDWIG VON MISES, EUGENICS, AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS:

http://watch.pair.com/synarchy-4.html#mont-pelerin


http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Articles/Ron_Paul_Devolution.htm

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/01/09/400521/rand-paul-explains-his-familys-opposition-to-civil-rights-act-its-about-controlling-property/?mobile=nc

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/01/20/408473/gingrich-says-work-is-a-strange-concept-to-juan-williams/