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Terri Schiavo Documentary Wins More Awards, Schindler Family Helps Disabled

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Terri Schiavo Documentary Wins More Awards, Schindler Family Helps Disabled

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
July 29, 2009

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St. Petersburg, FL (LifeNews.com) -- The Terri Schiavo Story, a highly-regarded documentary on the life and euthanasia death of the disabled Florida woman, continues to rack up new awards. Meanwhile, the Schindler family continues to help disabled patients whose lives are threatened by doctors or families.
Schiavo was killed in a painful starvation and dehydration euthanasia death over the course of nearly two weeks when her former husband won a court order to kill her and the documentary presents facts that the mainstream media distorted.
Earlier this year the Terri Schiavo Story won the 2009 Jubilee Award at the San Antonio Independent Christian Film Festival.

Now, the film has won the 2009 Crown Award for Best Documentary at the ICVM conference (International Christian Visual Media).
In addition, the Dove Foundation, known for their high standards in family entertainment and their "Family Approved" Seal, has given "The Terri Schiavo Story" its highest rating of five stars.

Meanwhile, Bobby Schindler, Terri's brother, says the foundation he and his family created to help people like Terri is receiving a growing amount of calls for help.
"Over the past few months Terri's Foundation is experiencing a significant increase of calls from family members asking us for help in a variety of health care treatment situations," Schindler explained.
"Most of these are dealing with people who are facing withdrawal of medical care. These calls have been coming in from across the nation. This increase in calls is alarming," he said.
"These calls come in from everyday families who are faced with having their loved ones killed simply because they need extra care or have potentially life threatening disabilities," Schindler continued. "Sadly, too many in the medical community are now deciding that some people should die because their 'quality of life' does not meet some standard that is being subjectively established."
"Terri's Foundation fights every day for the families faced with these situations, trying to protect their loved ones from a strong euthanasia movement," he said.

Schindler says, in an email to LifeNews.com, that the health care bills pending in Congress could add to the concerns.
"And despite the warning from health care experts that a government controlled health care system will only add to this growing problem, potentially exposing countless of our most vulnerable in harm's way, we will remain committed to fight," Schindler said.
Schindler talked about the kind of ethic society needs to embrace.
"We believe no one is unworthy of life, and the most vulnerable among us deserve nothing less than our unconditional love, compassion and care," he said.

Related web sites:

Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation - http://www.terrisfight.org/

Buzz up!

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http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html

http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/scientology_clearwater_bar_association_judge_greer.html

http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/altered_picture_terri_looks_like_lisa_mcpherson.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2206093/posts

http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/greers_order_swallow_ability.html

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Disturbing%20Truths/terri_schiavo-tortured_to_death.htm

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From http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/florida_statutes_terri_no_euthanasia.html


Florida Statues Prohibit Deliberate Acts to End Life


765.309 Florida Statute: Mercy Killing of Euthanasia Not Authorized; Suicide Distinguished. -- (1) Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, or to permit any affirmative or deliberate act of omission to end the life other than to permit the natural process of dying. (2) The withholding or withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures from a patient in accordance with any provision of this chapter does not, for any purpose, constitute a suicide.


458.326 Florida Statute: Intractable Pain; Authorized Treatment. -- (4) Nothing in this section shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, and no treatment authorized by this section may be used for such purpose.
782.08 Florida Statute: Assisting Self-Murder. -- Every person deliberately assisting another in the commission of self-murder shall be guilty of manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s.775.082, s. 775.083 or s.775.084.


Florida's prohibitions against assisted suicide protects not only the terminally ill, but also the disabled, the elderly, the chronically ill, the severely handicapped.
Withholding food and water by mouth is a deliberate act to end life and is prohibited in the Florida statutes! "Helping" Terri kill herself is assisted suicide and is also prohibited in the Florida statutes.


Read the Florida statutes: 2003->Ch0744->Section 3215" target=_blank>Rights of incapacitated persons; 2003->Ch0744->Section 2025" target=_blank>Change of ward's address; 2003->Ch0744->Section 3145" target=_blank>Guardian education requirements; 2003->Chapter 825" target=_blank>Neglect of vulnerable persons; 2003->Ch0825->Section 103" target=_blank>Exploitation of vulnerable persons
Back to Judge Greer and Michael Schiavo: Collusive Law Breaking in Attempts to End Terri's Life
Scientology and Terri Schindler Schiavo: The Death Connection

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From http://www.lifenews.com/bio1428.html

Terri Schiavo Died One Year Ago Today -- A Look Back
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by Steven Ertelt

LifeNews.com Editor

March 31, 2006


Pinellas Park, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Terri Schiavo died a year ago today. She passed away after enduring 13 days of a painful starvation and dehydration death that six state and federal courts declined to prevent.
While her family still remembers a loving daughter and sister, her death was the beginning of a renewed debate about euthanasia and end of life issues.
Terri died on a Thursday morning at Woodside Hospice, and Paul O'Donnell, a Franciscan monk who had been a spokesman for the Schindlers during the two weeks of agony she endured, confirmed her death that fateful day.
"It is with great sadness that it's been reported to us that Terri Schiavo has passed away," he told reporters.


Terri's Medical Condition Very Serious Before Death


Earlier in the day, Terri's brother, Bobby, saw her the most in her last 48 hours, described her as "very gaunt" in a morning visit and noted that her medical condition deteriorated rapidly the night before.
"It's her 14th day without food and water. You can imagine, it is not a pretty sight," he said shortly before her death.
Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, Bobby and sister Suzanne Vitadamo were in Terri's hospice room visiting with her until about 10 minutes before she died.
Father Frank Pavone of Priests for Life visited Terri Thursday morning with her family. He said Bobby and Suzanne were ''sitting there praying, holding her hand, stroking her hair."
Michael Told Terri's Family to Leave
Although Terri's parents and family were with her 10 minutes before she died, Terri's estranged husband Michael prevented them from being with her at the moment of her death.
O'Donnell indicated that, at the end of their scheduled one hour visit, police instructed them to leave.
"At that point, they pleaded with the police -- the police were acting under the orders of Michael Schiavo - that Michael allow them to stay in the room as Terri was about to pass away," O'Donnell said.
The Schindler family agreed to be in the room at the same time as Michael, if that would persuade him to let them stay. Police passed on the plea to Michael, who denied it and instructed police to threaten them with arrest if they did not comply with his wishes to leave.
"They not only escorted them out of the room, but also off the hospice property. Within ten minutes, it was reported that Terri passed away," O'Donnell said.


Terri Tried to Say She Wanted to Live


Almost a week before her death, Terri tried to tell a family attorney that she wanted to live.
Barbara Weller, one of the attorneys for Terri's parents, told the disabled woman, "Terri, if you would just say, 'I want to live,' all of this will be over."
Weller said Terri desperately tried to repeat Weller's words.
"'I waaaaannt ...,' Schiavo said. Weller described it as a prolonged yell that was loud enough that police stationed nearby entered the hospice room.
"She just started yelling, 'I waaaannt, I waaaannt,'" Weller explained.


Terri Responsive Until Death, Prayed With Family


In one of the more remarkable evidences that Terri was responsive and interacting with her family, a Catholic priest who prayed with the Schindler's before Terri's death said the disabled woman closed her eyes for the prayer and opened them when it was complete.
"She was very responsive -- closing her eyes when I said, 'Let's pray together, Terri,' opening them up after the prayer," Father Pavone said.
He indicated Terri was smiling and "returning the kiss of her father" as well as "turning her eyes to me when I spoke to her."
Terri Never Wanted to Die
Though her former husband Michael alleged Terri told him numerous times she didn't want any extra measures taken to keep her alive, a close friend of Terri's disputes that claim.
Diane Meyer told the courts that Terri never would have wanted to die this way.
After viewing a documentary on Karen Quinlan, another disabled patient who was the center of a national euthanasia debate, Terri said courts and doctors wouldn't know what Karen wanted.
"Where there's life, there's hope" Terri told her friend.


Neurologists: Terri Wasn't PVS


Before her death, two leading neurologists said Terri was not in a persistent vegetative state.Dr. Joseph Fins of New York Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center reviewed Schiavo's medical records for the Florida Department of Children and Familles.
Fins indicated Terri's condition may have been misdiagnosed and that she was more likely in a state of minimal consciousness rather than a PVS patient as courts and many media outlets alleged.
Dr. William Cheshire of the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, also believed Terri was minimally conscious rather than a PVS patient.


Media Anticipated Terri's Death


CBS News came under fire for prewriting and posting to its news web site a story claiming Terri Schiavo had died -- three days before her death.
"Surrounded by stuffed animals and medical equipment in her small hospice room in Pinellas Park, Fla., Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo died," the pre-written story said.CBS News spokeswoman Sandy Genelius told LifeNews.com that the story was "a draft that was stored on the web site" but not intended to be accessible to the public. She said the story was accidentally saved to a portion of the web site accessible to search engines and she told LifeNews.com that CBS News "removed the story as soon as the error was discovered."
Courts Refused to Stop Terri's Euthanasia Death
Circuit Court Judge George Greer initially ordered Terri's death in 2000 and her feeding tube was removed twice before. The second time, Florida Governor Jeb Bush lobbied state lawmakers to pass a bill that would allow him to protect Terri's life.
They did, but the bill was ultimately declared unconstitutional.


During the third time Terri's feeding tube was removed, Congress passed legislation to protect Terri and the measure received President George W. Bush's approval.
However, three Florida and six federal courts ignored the bill's mandate to halt Terri's starvation and hold new trials related to the Schindlers' lawsuit.Related web sites:

Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation - http://www.terrisfight.org/

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Myths Exposed about Terri Schiavo

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34416

http://www.theschiavostory.com/

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/terri.htm

http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2009/03/new_award-winni.php

http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2008/09/disabled_woman.php

http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/mediakit.htm

http://www.sweetliberty.org/bulletins/terri/

http://www.lifenews.com/bio2792.html

http://www.lifenews.com/nat1182.html

http://www.lifenews.com/bio805.html

http://libertytothecaptives.net/exposing_conspiracy_not_hatred.html

http://gordonwatts.com/myths.html

http://www.infowars.com/articles/life/schiavo_murder.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/life/schiavo_fate_of_terri_rests_on_judge.htm

http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/03/legalized_killi_1.php

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/03/31/more-about-terris-brain-and-diagnosing-pvs/

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/category/sanctity-of-life/terri-schiavo/

http://www.infowars.com/articles/life/schiavo_fate_of_terri_rests_on_judge.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/life/schiavo_blog_comments_sick_death_crowd.htm

http://www.christendomreview.com/Volume001Issue002/lydia_mcgrew_01.html

So you can't stop the truth from coming out.

-By Timothy

84 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is It True?

Is it true that the Schindlers made 4+Hours of videos of Terri Schiavo?

Is it true that the Schindlers displayed to the public only the highly edited 4+minute of the 4+hours of videos?

Is it true that the Schindlers made these highly edited videos to give a false display of Terri Schiavo’s condition? Also proving the Schindlers knew the true condition of Terri Schiavo for them to even make these edited videos.

Is it true that the Schindlers’ overall purpose of these highly edited videos of Terri Schiavo was to incite sympathy, to generate donations and stir support?

These are the same videos that Bill Frist the ex-Senate Republician majority leader and physician made his famous mis-diagnosis of Terri Schiavo. The fraud worked on Frist.

Is it true that the Schindlers made request for donations for their legal fees?

Is it true that the Schindlers' legal representation was paid for by other rich foundations.

Is it true that the Schindlers (Bob Sr., Mary, Bob Jr., and Suzanne) are working for the Foundations that was/is financed with the requested “Legal Fees” donations which is still providing all four of them their livelihoods and retirements.

By requesting donations for one purpose (legal fees) and using these donations for another purposes (livelihoods and retirements) is a scam. It was a fraud on the persons that gave donations for the purpose of helping the Schindlers’ with their legal fees.

I called it a fraud especially on the public and/or their donors.

Everything the Schindlers state about Terri Schiavo’s condition is base on these edited 4+minutes of videos. Once the public realize that these videos were edited and staged to give a false display of Terri Schiavo's condition, The Schindlers' whole story line falls apart. The Pinellas County Medical Examiner’s autopsy report proves and disagrees with the Schindlers’ falsehoods about Terri Schiavo’s PVS.

The Schindlers are attempting to re-write the History of the Terri Schiavo Tragedy to fit their story line ("The Schindler Script").

It is true that Terri Schaivo’s condition was Persistent Vegetative State (PVS).


New Question about current events:

Is it true that the Schindlers are using Joni as a front person for the sale of their “The Terri Schiavo Story” DVDs to avoid any problems with the IRS and their 501(c)3 Non-Profit Charity Corp.? It could be a problem if the Schindlers have any financial gains from selling the videos.

Anonymous said...

The above was posted by Walter Gay, husband of Cynthia Gay, the paralegal for euthanasia attorney George Felos. He posts this same thing over and over and over---stale and untrue. Felos and the Gays profited very well from Terri's trust fund and lied all the way through the case. Walter Gay has a personal agenda of hate towards the Schindler family and continues to perpetuate his lies and hate 4 1/2 years after her death. He He consistently posts defamatory comments and libel towards Terri's family and her supporters. The man has an obsessive compulsive disorder and makes false allegations. He's a total nutcase.
And Stephen Ertelt? He never wrote an original article in his life. He's a phony---just like Gay--a fraud.

Anonymous said...

Thats funny- the Nut Country Gazette publisher calling someone a total nutcase.

http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/ad3/decisions/2003/12111.pdf

Anonymous said...

It is nice to know that she is reading this forum so I can talk to her. She is scared to let me read her NCG articles where she hides like a badger in it hole that comes out now a then to attack its prey.

Maybe the "Yellow Journalist" will prove to us what is not true about the "Is It True?" questions instead of "attacking" the massager.

Anonymous said...

Walter Gay is a complete an total fruitcake. He seems boogeymen around every corner. That's what happens when you lie like he does. From what I hear, he's been making a lot of false accusations and is now the subject of a criminal complaint. He doesn't even have enough balls to post under his own name.

Timothy said...

NOt to mention that Terri Schiavo's death violated many Florida Statues and the Geneva Convention against starving innocent people to death.

By Timothy

Anonymous said...

no one's gonna bother with you Walter Gay. You aren't worth the time

Anonymous said...

The above was posted by Walter Gay, husband of Cynthia Gay, the paralegal for euthanasia attorney George Felos. He posts this same thing over and over and over---stale and untrue. Felos and the Gays profited very well from Terri's trust fund and lied all the way through the case. Walter Gay has a personal agenda of hate towards the Schindler family and continues to perpetuate his lies and hate 4 1/2 years after her death. He He consistently posts defamatory comments and libel towards Terri's family and her supporters. The man has an obsessive compulsive disorder and makes false allegations. He's a total nutcase.
And Stephen Ertelt? He never wrote an original article in his life. He's a phony---just like Gay--a fraud.

"Badger"

All you need to do to is to prove each of my question false besides just saying so. Then I will quit posting my STALE "Is It True?" Post.
by Walter in FL

Ginger said...

Why, yes, first poster, yes, everything you asked IS true. Sad that even now, the fruitcakes won't move on but instead continue lying and indulging their silly melodramatic li'l selves.. I wonder if they heard she died? Time to let her rest.

Anonymous said...

Walter gay and the rest of the clan from Topix are bullies and engaged in defamation and personal attacks, trying to cram their warped lies down other people's throats. Terri Schiavo is gone, has been for 4 1/2 years but yet they can't let their lies go. Gay is particularly abusive and bizarre. Whenever someone exposes his lies, he launches an defamatory libelous attacks and makes up things as he goes along. No credibility at all. All you've done is provide a forum for defamation and attacks on people for which you are liable my friend. Others are engaged in impersonation. Complete and total fruitcakes afflicted with obsessive compulsive behavior

Timothy said...

People that respect the perservation of human life aren't fruitcakes. Only a liar would say that and use ad-hominem attacks against those that disagree with them. Now, people are allowing Terri to rest and peace. One of the ways of achieving that goal is education about end of life issues and not promoting starving innocent human beings to death. See, you liars have nothing to say since Florida Statues, the Geneva Convention and a host of other laws make what happened upon Terri Schiavo illegal.

Timothy said...

It's great that you're targeting people like me since I won't back down and I will never be like you philosophically. I will never support abortion on demand and I will never believe in starving human beings to death like eugenicists. I will never support the denial of individual right of self defense. I will never promote policies that oppose human civil liberties as well.

Timothy said...

Ginger, this isn't lying, but all facts. Just because you Ginger, this blog post will include more information or facts on Terri Schiavo. You liars should of never tempted me or lied on the pro-life movement at all.

By Timothy

Anonymous said...

The Nuts Country Gazette publisher feels she has exclusive rights to cover any and all aspects of the Schiavo story and no one else in America is allowed ongoing discussion and debate of a human interest story that merited national and international news coverage.

The Nuts Country Gazette publisher feels she OWNS exclusive rights to the Schiavo story, that her "news publishing" scooped every other media outlet, that no one but her has ever written an original word on the topic and no one else is allowed to write anything on the topic.

If she can't silence someone she deals with them in her own special tin foil cap wearing way:

http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/ad3/decisions/2003/12111.pdf

Anonymous said...

Terri Schiavo did not starve to death. The ME report was explicitly clear on that issue. One also needs to bear in mind that laws and rules which apply to most situations may or may NOT apply to medical scenarios. The legal and ethical zeitgeist is distinct in such scenarios.

For instance, Tim raises a good point that killing a person is illegal. That is true in most cases. But so is committing assault and battery and torture against a person. Still, stopping the artificial nutrition and hydration in Terri's case was not murder or manslaughter, for the same reason that implementing it in the first place and then maintaining it was not assault and battery.

One cannot glibly ignore the medical, ethical, and legal considerations. There is a reason people have to study 3 years to become a lawyer and 4 years to become a doctor. Simply knowing legal and medical facts is insufficient. One has to be able to interpret such facts in their correct context, knowing when they do and do not apply.

Timothy said...

She did starve to death. The authorities withdrawn her food supply.

Timothy said...

Also, the links that I've added represent the strong case that illegal procedures were enacted against Terri Schiavo. This ought to be known. Judge Greer overstepped his power and Lisa Ruby have tons of links validating that premise. See, never will change the fact that Terri Schiavo experienced a judicial homicide and her death violated many laws including Florida Statues.

Anonymous said...

She did NOT starve to death. Read the ME report. Her fat stores were intact, ergo she did not starve to death. The proximate mechanism of death was dehydration. This is distinct from starvation.

The links you provide are not applicable in cases where a person has a fatal pathology and has declined life sustaining interventions. In point of fact, one could make the argument that keeping Terri on the tube feeds was violative, according to your links. But as I said, the links you provided simply are inapplicable. You obviously have no legal or medical training. Statuory, case, and common law need to be properly interpreted and applied.

You may want to read the Physicians' Ethics Manual, 5th edition, which was published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in April 2005. This manual is endorsed by the American Medical Association and the American College of Physicians. It deals specifically with medical scenarios.

Anonymous said...

You may also be interested in reading an article published in Neurology (a peer reviewed medical journal) in September of 2008. It actually quantified the amount of misinformation and disinformation associated with the former Schiavo case.

Ginger said...

Anon, do you have a link to the article in Neurology? That sounds interesting.

Anonymous said...

fruity Timothy is on a role and thinks he's in control. Not if he's going to allow personal attacks and defamation against people. He's going to get a very rude awakening. There is no First Amendment right to allowing a vehicle for defamation and libel and publishing it. BTW,

Another troubling study just released validates that there is a pervasive misdiagnosis of brain injured patients as being in a vegetative state.

The study has just been published in “BioMed Central Neurology” by Caroline Schnakers, Steven Laureys and their colleagues in the coma science group at the University of Liège in Belgium. http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2377/9/35

The study indicates that many patients, such as Terri Schindler Schiavo, have their lives terminated when they show signs of awareness such as Terri. http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=6slC-zp50Qg

Anonymous said...

Why, I believe James Youngblood, aka Yogo, has appeared with his nonsense. Fruitcake #2. Still arguing after 4 1/2 years. Anyone who's a fervid supporter of Steven Ertelt as obviously drooling Timothy is has about as much credibility as Ertlet, the guy who tries to make money off everyone else's work, which is ZILCH

Anonymous said...

OMG,Timothy is using Lisa Ruby as his source, the great scientologist herself. If that's the best you can do sonny, crawl back in your hole

Anonymous said...

Hey, how bout we talk about Derek Newton, Michael Schiavo and TerriPAC--about Newton's criminal charges and plea bargain. We hear there's a federal investigation ongoing by IRS and FBI of money laundering and conspiracy involving Newton and some of the people close to him and Schiavo---like maybe Walter and Cynthia Gay

Anonymous said...

One major factor that everyone avoids:

Summary of the Florida’s Estelle Browning decision.

The right to "choose or refuse medical treatment" and to make "all medical choices" is part of Florida's constitutional right of privacy. All persons have this right whether competent or incompetent. Any treatment, including life prolonging procedures, can be withdrawn at any time, regardless of terminal illness, imminent death or incapacity. The withdrawal of life prolonging procedures, such as artificial feeding, does not cause death, it only allows death from natural causes. If a patient will die within 4 to 9 days after withdrawal of artificial feeding, then the condition is terminal and death is imminent. A patient who has orally or in writing expressed wishes for future health care can have those wishes implemented by a surrogate without judicial review; and a proxy appointed in writing may make all such decisions unless limited in the writing; in these two cases, any interested party who disagrees with the decision may take the matter to court. Written instructions are prima facie valid, oral ones must be proven by clear and convincing evidence.
This Statute is the results of the Estelle Browning Decision of the Florida Supreme Court:
George Felos was Mrs. Browning legal representative.

The 2008 Florida Statutes
Title XLIV Chapter 765 View Entire Chapter
CIVIL RIGHTS HEALTH CARE ADVANCE DIRECTIVES
765.305 Procedure in absence of a living will.--
(1) In the absence of a living will, the decision to withhold or withdraw life-prolonging procedures from a patient may be made by a health care surrogate designated by the patient pursuant to part II unless the designation limits the surrogate's authority to consent to the withholding or withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures.
(2) Before exercising the incompetent patient's right to forego treatment, the surrogate must be satisfied that:
(a) The patient does not have a reasonable medical probability of recovering capacity so that the right could be exercised by the patient.
(b) The patient has an end-stage condition, the patient is in a persistent vegetative state, or the patient's physical condition is terminal.
History.--s. 4, ch. 92-199; s. 28, ch. 99-331; s. 13, ch. 2000-295.

URL: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=CH0765/SEC305.HTM&Title=->2008->CH0765->Section%20305#0765.305

Anonymous said...

It was not a assumption or an error on Michael Schiavo’s part, it was the findings of a Florida Probate Court after viewing the evidence and hearing the testimony of three witnesses stating Terri Schiavo made the remarks that she would never wish to be kept in a unrecoverable condition that prevent her from living a normal functioning life. Terri Schiavo was in a Persistent Vegetative State, which was not recoverable, and she was not living a normal functioning life. Terri Schiavo could not perform any tasks or functions for herself and she could not communicate. Terri Schiavo’s persona was gone and her body was being kept alive by man’s medical technology.

It was proven in court that Terri had a virtual “Living Will.” Judge Greer made the ruling and order and neither Michael nor the Schindlers could change it. It was a court order to remove the PEG tube.
As Terri’s wishes were proven in court, Terri Schiavo’s Virtual “Living Will”:
Terri’s self-determination is that her dying not be artificially prolonged under the circumstances set forth as Terri declared that, if at any time she is mentally or physically incapacitated and by any or all of the following: terminal condition, end-stage condition, persistent or vegetative state, and it is determined that there is no reasonable medical probability of her recovery from such condition, Terri directed that life-prolonging procedures be withheld or withdrawn when the application of such procedures would serve only to prolong artificially the process of dying, and that she be permitted to die naturally with only the administration of medication or the performance of any medical procedure deemed necessary to provide her with comfort care or to alleviate pain.

Anonymous said...

Hey, how bout we talk about Derek Newton, Michael Schiavo and TerriPAC--about Newton's criminal charges and plea bargain. We hear there's a federal investigation ongoing by IRS and FBI of money laundering and conspiracy involving Newton and some of the people close to him and Schiavo---like maybe Walter and Cynthia Gay

June Maxam

There is a difference and honesty.
Answer my questions and explain why questions are false. I'll will then prove the difference.

Anonymous said...

why in hell would an award winning journalist like her waste her valuable time with asswipes like you. Get real Gay. You have such an afflication, you think every poster who opposes your lies is her. Honesty is not in your vocabulary nor is credibility or integrity. You're like Michael Schiavo, you think if you tell the same lies often enough they will become true. Get a life Gay, quick---before the feds get you. How come you don't want to talk about Derek Newton and the proven fraud? How much money did you get from the scheme?

Anonymous said...

what a waste of time this thing is. Bunch of looney tunes, none of them with enough balls to post under their own name.

Anonymous said...

Hey---did ya hear about Michael Schiavo getting caught slacking again? Ripping off the taxpayers, using sheriff's department computers to team up with Walter Gay and his clan to levy defamatory remarks and hate towards the Schindler family? Got caught didn't he and guess who caught him? Did you know that the the Florida Department of Health has Schiavo and his nursing license under investigation. Let's talk about current affairs which go to the character of Michael Schiavo and his followers like Walter Gay and Derek Newton.

Anonymous said...

Nice try June! The Pinellas Sheriff Department is fully aware of your tactics. Being you lack
credibility how about some proof of Florida Department of Health and Schiavo or is this another allegation?{:-))

June, are you caberstalking Michael Schiavo again? You know there are laws against that type of activities, especially when you are trying to get him fired. {:-))

Don’t let your hypocrisy meets your ignorance at the expense of your intelligence.{:-))

Anonymous said...

When did Bobby Schindler Jr. become an expert on Health Care Reformation?

Bobby Schindler Jr. is just attempting to connect and drawing a comparison of the Terri Schiavo tragedy to the health care reformation so the Schindlers can get more exposure under that health care topic. He has no expertise in health care.

Bobby Schindler is the host of “America’s Lifeline” heard Saturdays on WGUL in Tampa and online through their Web site. He is the brother of Terri Schiavo.

Have you notice that Bobby Schindler Jr. has to be always introduced as “the brother of Terri Schiavo?” The Schindlers do not have name recognition with Terri Schiavo. That is why they named their foundation the Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation and always refer to Terri Schiavo (her legal name Theresa Marie Schiavo) as Terri Schindler Schiavo. Otherwise no one would know any of the Schindlers claim to fame and send send them their donations.

Timothy said...

Someone said:

"OMG,Timothy is using Lisa Ruby as his source, the great scientologist herself. If that's the best you can do sonny, crawl back in your hole."

Lisa Ruby isn't a Scientology and she wrote articles rejecting that cult. So you are a liar yet again. I don't crawl into holes coward. I will keep living on this Earth and continue to fight for the truth. I will read the rest of these comments to see concepts about this issue. You won't even show your first name.

By Timothy

Timothy said...

"Why, I believe James Youngblood, aka Yogo, has appeared with his nonsense. Fruitcake #2. Still arguing after 4 1/2 years. Anyone who's a fervid supporter of Steven Ertelt as obviously drooling Timothy is has about as much credibility as Ertlet, the guy who tries to make money off everyone else's work, which is ZILCH.."


Nice ad hominem attacks. So, me evidence that Ertelt is evil for showing the truth about pro life issues.

Timothy said...

She did NOT starve to death. Read the ME report. Her fat stores were intact, ergo she did not starve to death. The proximate mechanism of death was dehydration. This is distinct from starvation.

The links you provide are not applicable in cases where a person has a fatal pathology and has declined life sustaining interventions. In point of fact, one could make the argument that keeping Terri on the tube feeds was violative, according to your links. But as I said, the links you provided simply are inapplicable. You obviously have no legal or medical training. Statuory, case, and common law need to be properly interpreted and applied.

You may want to read the Physicians' Ethics Manual, 5th edition, which was published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in April 2005. This manual is endorsed by the American Medical Association and the American College of Physicians. It deals specifically with medical scenarios.

Response: Judge Greer withhold hydration and nutrition. That alone equates starvation since you're unnaturally witholding nutrients from the human body. Terri Schiavo never created a legally binding document will at all. People have every right to comment on subject regardless if they have extensive legal or medical training. To deny that right is arrogance on the part of some people.

Anonymous said...

Hey Timothy, you're just as full of shit as Walter Gay and his cult

Anonymous said...

Ertlet wouldn't know the truth if he fell over it. You pro-lifers are jokes

Anonymous said...

truth seeker my ass.

Timothy said...

That's the only thing you and people like you can say. I do't follow Gay at all. I don't follow a cult. I'm an independent person.

Timothy said...

Pro-Lifers like us did more things than pro-abortion extremists will ever do. With us, we saved the lives of potential leaders, teachers, theologians, and other contributors to society. Many of the famous heroes were saved from abortion like Gianna Jessen.

Timothy said...

Pro Lifers aren't jokes, which is another lie by you. Pro-Lifers day by day fight for innocent life. They educate women on alternatives to abortion. They have saved life and promote a culture that respects the sancity of all human life. The basic freedoms we enjoy are nothing without first the right of life in existence.


You need to comprehend that vital point.

Timothy said...

You guys won't even say your first name.

Timothy said...

I will look at the other comments pertaining to legal matters in order to get a better understanding of the legal parameters pertaining to the Terri Schiavo tradegy though.

Anonymous said...

you're a joke Timothy, you don't know enough to be on this playing field. Anyone who has Steven Ertelt and Lisa Ruby as his sources is definitely out to lunch.

Anonymous said...

Timothy's a panty waist. He and Jimbo "Yoyo" Youngblood make a good pair

Anonymous said...

Lisa Ruby??? A source for anything??? ROTFLMAO That's the broad that claimed that the spokesperson for the Schiavo Foundation had fives in her eye so therefore she was a member of the occult. Oh yeah, Lisa Ruby is a hell of source. bet she practices voodoo too. Lisa Ruby's elevator definitely doesn't reach the top floor. This whole blog is a joke. ROTFLMAO, complete with Walter Gay and the whole Topix cult.

Anonymous said...

Is Walter Gay a massager? What's that got to do with anything. He says: "prove to us what is not true instead of "attacking" the massager. Don't you need a license to be a massager? Maybe Walter Gay is in the porno business. Has anyone checked to see what goes on in his "massage room"? Hey Walter, you got Michael in there??

Timothy said...

Keep on with the lies and deception. Notice that you can't even contain yourself without spewing lies and invectives. Lisa Ruby doesn't practice voodoo, which is another lie on your part. My blog isn't a joke. It shows tons of information on a variety of issues. It's very accurate and shows tons of opinions. Like I said before, I will study the legal questions of the case more.

Yet, I will still be pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, pro-civil libeties, and pro-truth forever. Nothing will ever change that reality.

Timothy said...

Steven Ertelt and Lisa Ruby have written tons of great sources in the past and present, so I don't need you to lecture about this issue to anyone at all.

Timothy said...

I don't follow Walter Gay's agenda. I'm my own independent man. So, your lies are getting very old.

Timothy said...

So, I have my views and you have yours.

Anonymous said...

Your views are uninformed and based on unreliable sources. Anyone who sees fives in people's eyes isn't wrapped too tight....nor are you. And you claim to be an "independent" thinker, you who rely on Ertelt and Lisa Ruby as your sources. ROTFLMAO. You and Walter Gay make a hell of a team---and you don't even agree with each other!!!!!

Timothy said...

My views are informed on many issues, so your deception once again is getting old and tired. I use great sources all of the time. The links I've shown here show the other side of story. You hate it, because they refute what many who love death show. I don't see 5s on everything, so you are grasping at straws here. I'm an independent thinker since I look at a vast array of information. Erfelt and Lisa Ruby have been proven right on the occult nature of Scientology, the dangerous side effects of abortion, the contribution of the pro-life movement, and other realities that you reject. Therefore, I'm moving forward.

I will study the legal complexities in this case, but I will not relinquish my core convictions at all.

Anonymous said...

you move as far foward as you wish. You have a lot to learn sonny and giving a forum for people like Walter Gay and his Topix cult to advance their lies and defamation isn't really a wise idea. I got a real strong idea that you're going to get a quick education in libel law for what you have allowed here.

Walter In FL said...

“Docs: Schiavo Videos Misleading”
Associated Press
Monday, March 28, 2005

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. —

They say film doesn't lie, but does that mean it tells the truth?
The public sees fleeting videotaped images of Terri Schiavo (search), appearing to many to turn toward her mother's voice and smile. They hear what sound like moans and laughter. They watch her head move up and down, seemingly following the progress of a brightly colored Mickey Mouse balloon. And often they ask: How could anyone conclude but that she is aware of her surroundings?
The answer lies not so much within Schiavo's brain as in the minds of those who observe her.
As social beings, humans are hard-wired to examine another's face for clues to what the person behind it is thinking. They naturally associate vocal tones with specific moods. They detect meaningful words in nonsense utterances.

Full Article URL: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151662,00.html

Walter In FL said...

“Viewing Videotape, Frist Disputes Fla. Doctors' Diagnosis of Schiavo”
By Charles Babington
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 19, 2005; Page A15
Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), a renowned heart surgeon before becoming Senate majority leader, went to the floor late Thursday night for the second time in 12 hours to argue that Florida doctors had erred in saying Terri Schiavo is in a "persistent vegetative state."
"I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office," he said in a lengthy speech in which he quoted medical texts and standards. "She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli."

URL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48119-2005Mar18.html

Walter In FL said...

“Doctors In Congress Criticized”
Should Frist, Others Have Made Schiavo Diagnoses Based On Videos?

by Joel Roberts
CBS News WASHINGTON,
March 22, 2005 |

AP) When physicians are elected to Congress, they tend to leave their white coats at home and reserve their expertise for questions on health care policy.

But as Congress debated whether to intervene in the right-to-die fight over Terri Schiavo, several of those doctors weren't shy about offering their opinions about the brain-damaged woman's medical condition based on records, reports and videos taken by her family.

At least three physicians in Congress — Sen. Bill Frist, and Reps. Dave Weldon and Phil Gingrey, Republicans from Tennessee, Florida and Georgia — disputed whether there was sufficient medical evidence to pull the feeding tube from Schiavo, allowing her to die.

URL: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/22/politics/main682208.shtml

Walter In FL said...

“Schiavo Autopsy Results: Dr. Frist Is Incompetent”

by DemFromCT
The Next Hurrah
June 15, 2005
The Schiavo autopsy results, which clearly show the unfortunate Ms. Schiavo's brain to be half the normal adult size due to atrophy and deterioration, were released today to much media bruhaha.
An autopsy on Terri Schiavo, the severely brain damaged woman whose death sparked an intense debate over a person's right-to-die, showed that her brain was severely "atrophied," weighed less than half of what it should have, and that no treatment could have reversed the damage.
During a televised news conference in Largo, Fla., the Piniellas-Pasco Medical Examiner, Jon Thogmartin, also said the autopsy showed that Ms. Schiavo's condition was "consistent" with a person in a persistent vegetative state. That point had become a key issue in the debate over whether to prolong Ms. Schiavo's life and whether she had a chance to recover normal brain function.

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Walter In FL said...

“Schiavo Was Beyond Saving, Autopsy Finds”
By Karen Kaplan and John-Thor Dahlburg
Los Angeles Times
June 16, 2005 in print edition A-1
During Terri Schiavo’s final days, when her fervent supporters said she was alert, responsive and trying to speak, she was massively and irreversibly brain-damaged, blind and oblivious to what surrounded her, a medical examiner’s findings revealed Wednesday.
Schiavo died March 31 at a Pinellas Park, Fla., hospice after the plastic tube through which she had received food and water for 15 years was removed by a Florida judge’s order, sought by her husband, who contended that she was in a persistent vegetative state.
Schiavo died of dehydration, said Dr. Jon R. Thogmartin, the chief medical examiner for Pinellas and Pasco counties, who announced the results of the autopsy at a news conference in Largo, Fla.
A battle over whether the Florida woman should be allowed to die had raged in Congress, the Florida Legislature and the state and federal courts, and President Bush signed a special law meant to help Schiavo’s parents keep her alive.
URL: http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jun/16/nation/na-schiavo16

Anonymous said...

June Maxam

Are all these articles false?

Or do you know the difference?

There are More......if needs!

Are you going to sue them?

Anonymous said...

Hey gay, if you've got such a hard on for that woman, call her---or are you a big chicken shit. Never mind, we already know the answer to that

Timothy said...

"I got a real strong idea that you're going to get a quick education in libel law for what you have allowed here."

Are you trying to threaten me, becuase if you are, then your possible libel lawsuit have no merit whatsoever. I have a First Amendment right to show my views and allow many points of view on this issue. So, take your false threats to someone who is intimidated by you because you sure aren't intimidating no one here.

Anonymous said...

Boy are you stupid. First Amendment doesn't allow you to publish defamation and libel. You can't shout fire in a crowded theater. Consult an attorney and get back to me. I got an idea you're going to have more than one legal challenge with what you're allowing to transpire. You are about to get an education stupid

Walter In FL said...

It is irrelevant if Terri Schiavo was PVS

There is a perpetual question / argument about whether Terri Schiavo was in a Persistent Vegetative State (PVS). In Terri’s case the question is irrelevant to the controversy.
On this forum there have been many postings of URLs of legal documents and articles by professionals of medically proven facts that Terri Schiavo was not going to recover from her condition. The point has been forgotten and/or distracted from that Terri Schiavo made statements to five individuals that she would not desire to be kept alive in an unrecoverable condition.
Terri’s statements were ruled in probate court as an VIRTUAL (verbible) LIVING WILL.

Any other statements in contradiction to this fact are attempted distractions or made by someone with no knowledge of the proven facts, laws and the Constitutional rights of each person.

Timothy said...

I'm not stupid , so your ad hominem attacks outlines your character. I know the exceptions of First Amendment. These opposing viewpoints on Terri Schiavo hardly qualify as defamation or libel. I've already recieved an education and I'm not stupid. You're a coward by not even showing your first name.

Timothy said...

So, your faulty threats have no bearing on me.

Anonymous said...

you've got an education? You mean you graduated from 8th grade? Whatcha gonna do with a first name? Wanna try George or Mikey or Brian or Scott. Which one you want?

Anonymous said...

"So, your faulty threats have no bearing on me"

I wouldn't push your luck if I were you. Your 8th grade diploma in constitutional law? You really should consult with an attorney cause you have a huge liability right now dumbo

Anonymous said...

You've allowed some pretty strong personal attacks on some people here. It's got nothing to do with opinions about Terri Schiavo. You've allowed some heavy defamation and THAT is legally actionable. Like I said, consult an attorney. You're gonna need one

Timothy said...

By your own words and commentary, you have insecurity issues. You're too much of a coward to describe even your first name. You constantly use invective and name calling to describe people with whom you disagree. This behavior is definitely apart of an insecure and immature human being. I'm very intelligent, I've have a great education, and people like you are tired plus obsolete.

I'm not stupid either, so I will ignore you.

By Timothy

Anonymous said...

you obviously have limited intelligence as you have demonstrated by your posts and your failure to grasp the First Amendment. I didn't choose to have a dialogue with you as you clearly have no clue what you're talking about and your sources are definitely not credible. You really should consult with an attorney at your earliest opportunity because you have allowed people like Walter Gay and some of your other anonymous friends to engage in defamation towards the Schindler family and others. Maybe you'd like to talk about defamation and libel suits with Pat Anderson. She specializes in that.

Anonymous said...

you have this hangup with first names. I notice you didn't ask for anyone else's first name but then I already identified Walter Gay for you. You want the rest? You can call me Harold if it makes you feel better.

Anonymous said...

oh yeah, this is a first class source. ROTFLMAO

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Disturbing%20Truths/terri_schiavo-tortured_to_death.htm

Anonymous said...

Figured out who Pat Anderson is yet great wise one? She's a media attorney St. Petersburg in addition to having been one of the attorneys for the Schindlers. But then you're so intelligent, guess you know all about libel law, huh? or think you do. Couple of other laws you need to familiarize yourself with too if you're going to be in the "publishing" business

Anonymous said...

Customer: 'I've been calling 700-1000 for two days and can't get through; Can you help?'
Operator: 'Where did you get that number, sir?'
Customer: 'It's on the door of your business.'
Operator: 'Sir, those are the hours that we are open.'
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Samsung Electronics
Caller: 'Can you give me the telephone number for Jack?'
Operator: 'I'm sorry, sir, I don't understand who you are talking about.'
Caller: 'On page 1, section 5, of the user guide it clearly states that I
Need to unplug the fax machine from the AC wall socket and
Telephone Jack before cleaning. Now, can you give me the
Number for Jack?'
Operator: 'I think it means the telephone plug on the wall.'
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RAC Motoring Services
Caller: 'Does your European Breakdown Policy cover me when I am
Traveling in Australia ?'
Operator: 'Does the product name give you a clue?'
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Caller (enquiring about legal requirements while traveling in Europe )
'If I register my car in France , and then take it to England , do I have to change the steering wheel to the other side of the car?'
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Directory Enquiries
Caller: 'I'd like the number of the Argo Fish Bar, please'
Operator: 'I'm sorry, there's no listing. Are you sure that the spelling is correct?'
Caller: 'Well, it used to be called the Bargo Fish Bar but the 'B' fell off.'
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Then there was the caller who asked for a knitwear company in Woven.
Operator: 'Woven? Are you sure?'
Caller: 'Yes. That's what it says on the label -- Woven in Scotland '
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On another occasion, a man making heavy breathing sounds from a phone box told a worried operator: 'I haven't got a pen, so I'm steaming up the window to write the number on.'
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Tech Support: 'I need you to right-click on the Open Desktop.'
Customer: 'OK.'
Tech Support: 'Did you get a pop-up menu?'
Customer: 'No.'
Tech Support: 'OK . Right-Click again. Do you see a pop-up menu?'
Customer: 'No.'
Tech Support: 'OK, sir. Can you tell me what you have done up until this
Point?'
Customer: 'Sure. You told me to write 'click' and I wrote 'click'.'
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Tech Support: 'OK. At the bottom left hand side of your screen, can
You see the 'OK' button displayed?'
Customer: 'Wow! How can you see my screen from there?'
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Caller: 'I deleted a file from my PC last week and I just realized that I need it. So, if I turn my system clock back two weeks will I get my file back again?'

Anonymous said...

sounds like the mentality of Walter Gay

Anonymous said...

This sounds like Timothy, the customer

Actual dialogue of a former WordPerfect Customer Support employee.

Operator: 'Ridge Hall, computer assistance; may I help you?'
Caller: 'Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect.'
Operator: 'What sort of trouble??'
Caller: 'Well, I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words
Went away.'
Operator: 'Went away?'
Caller: 'They disappeared'
Operator: 'Hmm. So what does your screen look like now?'
Caller: 'Nothing.'
Operator: 'Nothing??'
Caller: 'It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type.'
Operator: 'Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?'
Caller: 'How do I tell?'
Operator: 'Can you see the 'C: prompt' on the screen?'
Caller: 'What's a sea-prompt?'
Operator: 'Never mind, can you move your cursor around the screen?'
Caller: 'There isn't any cursor; I told you, it won't accept anything I
Type.'
Operator: 'Does your monitor have a power indicator??'
Caller: 'What's a monitor?'
Operator: 'It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV.
Does it have a little light that tells you when it's on?'
Caller: 'I don't know.'
Operator: 'Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where
the power cord goes into it. Can you see that??'
Caller: 'Yes, I think so.'
Operator: 'Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's
plugged into the wall.
Caller: 'Yes, it is.'
Operator: 'When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that
there were two cables plugged into the back of it, not just
one? '
Caller: 'No.'
Operator: 'Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and
find the other cable.'
Caller: 'Okay, here it is.'
Operator: 'Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into
the back of your computer.'
Caller: 'I can't reach.'
Operator: 'OK. Well, can you see if it is?'
Caller: 'No.'
Operator: 'Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean
way over?'
Caller: 'Well, it's not because I don't have the right angle -- it's
because it's dark.'
Operator: 'Dark?'
Caller: 'Yes - the office light is off, and the only light I have is
coming in from the window.'
Operator: 'Well, turn on the office light then.'
Caller: 'I can't.'
Operator: 'No? Why not?'
Caller: 'Because there's a power failure.'
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licked now. Do you still have the boxes and manuals and
packing stuff that your computer came in?'
Caller: 'Well, yes, I keep them in the closet.'
Operator: 'Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it
up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to
the store you bought it from.'
Caller: 'Really? Is it that bad?'
Operator: 'Yes, I'm afraid it is.'
Caller: 'Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?'
Operator: 'Tell them you're too stupid to own a computer!'

Walter In FL said...

From “Follow the Money” by Jon B. Eisenberg

Here are just a few examples:

Pat Anderson [lawyer for the Schindlers] works with the Alliance Defense Fund, which received $143,000 from Philanthropy Roundtable members that include the Lynde & Harry Bradley Foundation and the Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation. Wesley Smith works with the Discovery Institute, which received $175,000 from the Lynde & Harry Bradley Foundation. Diane Colemen’s “friend of the court” brief is signed by the World Institute on Disability and the National Organization on Disability, which are funded by the Scaife Family Foundations, the Richard and Helen DeVos Foundation, and the JM Foundations.

The other “friend of the court” brief supporting Governor Bush was filed by the Family Research Council, which was formerly headed by Bush’s lawyer Kenneth Connor and which received $215,000 from the Lynde & Harry Bradley Foundation. Rita Marker’s organization, the International Task Force on Euthanasia, received $110,390 from the Randolph Foundation, an affiliate of the Smith Richardson family. Bush’s lawyer Robert Destro has ties to the Council on Economic and Policy Education, which is funded by the Randolph and JM Foundations.

The two new Schindler lawyers, Deborah Berliner and Brett Wood, are affiliated with Judicial Watch Inc, which received $7,069,500 from the Scaife and DeVos Foundations.
And in the thick of this is Governor Jeb Bush, a former director of the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation is a creation of Joseph Coors and one of the most prominent member of the Philanthropy Roundtable. The Heritage Foundation has been funded to the tune of $47 million by among others – you guessed it – the Bradley, Schaife, DeVos and JM Foundations.”

Jon B. Eisenberg is an attorney who practices in Oakland, California and is an adjunct professor at the University of California Hastings College of the Law. His specialty is civil appeals, on which he publishes a widely-use California treatise. His work mostly involves commercial and liability disputes, but his occasional forays into pro bono work lead him to cases like Terri Schiavo litigation, where he filed a amicus curiae brief in the Florida Supreme Court on behalf of 55 bioethicists and a disability rights organization opposing Governor Jeb Bush.

June, if all the above were paying the Schindlers' "Legal Fees", why were the Schindlers requesting donations to help with their so-called "Legal Fees?"

Anonymous said...

Whatever your issue is with the person you keep attacking, take it to email or phone. No matter what they answer, you'd never be satisified because you clearly refuse to accept the truth. How juvenile and unbalanced you are to carry this on nearly five years later.

Cleo said...

Although Terri's parents and family were with her 10 minutes before she died, Terri's estranged husband Michael prevented them from being with her at the moment of her death.
O'Donnell indicated that, at the end of their scheduled one hour visit, police instructed them to leave.

Utterly false. Terri's parents arrived 20 minutes after she died. They were not there at the time.

Her siblings and Father Pavone had visited for an hour and 45 minutes before the staff asked them to leave for a few minutes so they could check her vitals and attend to her personal needs (which probably included a diaper change and positioning). Bobby fought with the nurses and security in the room and the hallway having a sh*t fit. Of course he wasn't allowed back in.

BTW, Timothy, a word to the wise, don't use any of June Maxim's articles. She has a real thing about people 'stealing' her work and copyright infringement.

Cleo said...

http://www.slate.com/id/2121020/

But now we know she was blind. She didn't see her mom. She didn't see the balloon. Her eyes weren't alert. We didn't see in her what we thought we saw.

How did we get it wrong? We know what blinded her. But what blinded us?

Again, the bigger story is what you can't see. In this case, it's the four-plus hours of video from which Schiavo's parents and their supporters selected clips like these. Reporters who have watched the whole video series say it's largely a wasteland. "For nearly an hour, her parents and the doctor tell her to open her eyes, close her eyes, look this way, look that way—with little apparent response," says the St. Petersburg Times.

This is what happens when you deny reality. First you lose your senses, then your mind, then your soul.

Anonymous said...

your posts are absolutely untrue. The media broadcasting there at the time proves how false you are. Give it up. The lady's dead. Let her rest in peace. How juvenile and ignorant you are to continue this bitching five years later.

Anonymous said...

This timothy character is a nobody, this blog is a nothing. How stupid to even waste the time arguing over something long gone

Timothy said...

I am somebody and my blog is great. It shows great information, etc. Now, since this debate is getting too heated, comments here will be temporarily gone to let people cool off on this issue.
Terri Schiavo should indeed rest in peace. So, it's time to move on and move forward.

By Timothy