Revolt 426 on FDR

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Like i said - there is conflicting information about Pearl Harbor.

I didn't say i knew one way or another.

As for his plan - you certainly were not alive in the 1930's, and i respectfully disagree with you.

Certain aspects of his plan certainly did fail
Cetain aspects of his plan worked rather well actually

I've read just about all material possible for both sides of the arugment and i am entitled to my opinion. You can quote the entire 1933 Congressional Records , i've already read most of them (Yes McThadden too).

When JP Morgan and a group of bankers ( A Group of Fascists) attempt to assassinate and overthrow a president, then that president goes to war with Fascists, i find it hard to believe the President IS a Fascist.

The population, (Who were not as stupid back then) elected Roosevelt 4 times, more then any other President in History.

There is MASSIVE disinformation about him on the net.

however - i see your points and i agree there were certain policies that were detrimental, what most do not understand is the New Deal was partially experimental. It had never been done before on such a large scale, it was a mimic of Abraham Lincolns Economic Policies with some Social aspects and some other aspects.

The plan however as a whole, did NOT fail - the argument that World War 2 saved the economy is the biggest failure i've ever heard. We've been at war numerous times in this country and it has never brought us out of a Depression nor brought us prosperity.

Some aspects of the plan did prolong the Depression, but i dont judge FDR by the results of his failed policies i judge him by his intention and overall effect.

The Fundamental policies FDR used that i agree with are:

#1 Putting the FED into bankruptcy , because it had issued 100 billion dollars in Gold Convertable notes during the prior 2 administrations and only had 4 Billion in their Reserves - That is called being insolvent and the law says when a Bank goes insolvent you put it into bankruptcy. In our current situation infact, if we do not put the FED and entire system into bankruptcy the Derivative bubble will destroy civilization.

#2 Using the Bankrupt FED to monetize Federal Credit for use in Infrastructure investments - Lincoln always said Labour is prior and superior to capital. That means each dollar monetized for infrastructure had labour attached to it - that gives a currency real value , not a piece of metal.

#3 The Bretton Woods System, Fixed Exchange Rate system that prevented a single economic bubble from occuring from 1944-1971. The dollar was anchored by gold thus FIXING all exchange rates. This also prevents Imperialist Currency Speculators from driving down third world currencies, or "Shorting" them.

He also enstated Social Security, why? because Old people who were robbed of their life savings (like today!) were broke and starving to death......... Now, i am not a socialist but i can UNDERSTAND WHY he did something like that.

Things i disagree with about FDR:
1# Price fixing in the Agriculture Markets to stop deflation which failed.

2# his attempt to "Pack" the Supreme Court (Although i again realize, the Supreme court was full of traitors from the prior THREE administrations) i am still against that idea.


As for the actual conduct of World War 2, I wasn't in the Whitehouse nor alive at the time - and last i heard we won. There is too much disinformation on the internet and real information in books so i dont go ahead and "GOOGLE" FDR and think i know everything about him. The same goes for numerous other Presidents and policitians.

Generally, the only people who vehemently oppose FDR are Austrians, a school that i could not disagree any more with when it comes to Economics.

If you want to crucify me for having similar views about FDR to that of Webster Tarpley, then go Crucify him also. He is actually, a Historian... that is his JOB, that has been his Job for most of his life. He Documents history, and i happen to agree with alot of what he says.

-Revolt 426

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You are unfortunately , posting propagated history. We can go over FDR's policies one by one in the runup to the war i can will debunk anything you say, because i know it's propaganda.

It's funny how the internet is loaded with this notion that Rothschild was responsible for every depression in the US......

But as for FDR, you haven't got the slightest idea what you are posting, most of it is lies minced with half truths to distort a President who fought off a group of Fascists on Wall Street.

Do you think the bankers enjoyed the Glass Steagall act?

Being split into two?

Did they enjoy the Peroca hearings?

Did Andrew mellon enjoy being prosuceted by FDR?

You fail to realized the US was going through a cataclysmic collapse and FDR managed to avert it, by rebuilding and modernizing the US infrastructure via federal credit lending, not spending.

Not everything he did was perfect, but he averted a complete Collapse of the Nation.

-Revolt 426