Lol, although he is stating cold hard facts most of the time, Kashta tends to focus solely on the negative in our race, however, I am one who believes if any black person does this they will no doubt end up committing suicide, bleaching their skin white, renouncing one's blackness, marrying or dating only white people, selling out black people or even becoming the archetypal uncle tom who worships whites.
So does Kashta, by the looks of things...
Yes, we are no doubt in a bad way, but if we ignore the good that many are doing we will stay in the mental rut for ever consumed with feelings of despair.
My advice to Kashta would be to look for positive examples of black people and focus on them also, this will help neutralise feelings of "all hope is lost" and will prevent him from turning into a bitter old man which can easily happen when your outlook and focus concerning life is centred on what's going wrong instead of what is going right.
-The Revolutionist
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You are like a wasp at a picnic, unwanted nuisance, you clearly know jack shiite about your own country, let me guide you in the right direction.
You haven't proven a thing.
Many of the Top Black Actors, Sports people, Entertainers, Writers, Musicians of black America have foreign parents even the ones you are not aware of!
Bottom of page for a short list if famous Americans born from West Indian parents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_America...
More Blacks in America of West Indian parentage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Barbadia...
More Blacks in America of West Indian parentage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Haitian_...
Bottom of page; more Blacks in America with West Indian parents!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidadian_and_...
Bottom of page even more Blacks in America with West Indian parents!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Islander_...
This is even before we go into Notable blacks with African parents, their history spans from the early days of slavery right up to today!...
The fact that you would even question that foreign blacks have contributed MASSIVELY to Black America ever since the beginning shows you have ABSOLUTELY no knowledge of Black history whatsoever and you are simply a waste of my time when it comes to debating.
In fact probably half of Black Americas notable blacks have Non American parents, there are far too much to list, people like;
W. E. B. Du Bois (1868 – 1963)
Co-founder of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.... Half Haitian!
Fard Muhammad;
founder of the Nation of Islam!... Non American.
Marcus Garvey;
He founded the Universal Negro Improvement Association in America and is Jamaican.
Hubert Harrison
Founded the Liberty League and The Voice, the first organization and the first newspaper of the race-conscious “New Negro”...Non American parents
Shirley Chisholm;
The first black woman elected to Congress...Non American parents.
Prince Hall;
He is considered the founder of “Black Freemasonry” in the United States (born in Barbados)
Martin Delany;
He became the first African-American field officer in the United States Army during the American Civil War.(African Grandparents)
Henry Highland Garnet;
Garnet was the first black minister to preach to the United States House of Representatives (African Grandparents)
First American black/ mix race president;
African father
First Black Secretary General;
Jamaican parents
I could carry this on all day there simply isn't enough space and time to list all the achievements by Blacks you think are American but actually are foreign or foreign descended.
You say American blacks are superior, superior my Black a___, go tell that sh___ to some 5 year old who knows nothing about history!!!... Grown ups know better!
-The Revolutionist
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The fact that you have had individual success shows that Black people can succeed and there is hope for those who think positive, the only way you could of succeeded in your business is with a positive mental attitude and belief in yourself!
Revolutionist, the only thing keeping me sane is my own individual success, because despite the status of my people and my family background, I've actually managed to do quite well given my age, and this is something that I am proud of.
This is probably true, however, as you have the formula for black success under your belt, why not pass on your knowledge to those who are struggling rather than branding our entire race as "stupid" even though we no doubt have idiots amongst us who should be called out from time to time, some of us our people are highly intelligent.
What I've found is that in order for Black men to succeed in this world, they have to rely heavily on themselves. We can't rely on a support network like other races, because not only do Blacks not have a support network, we also have a Willie Lynch, crabs in the bucket mentality and the history shows we constantly betray each other.
If you want to be a success in business nowadays you have to reach out to a broader market rather than just Black people unless you are selling hair, rims, Bling and fried chicken!
We do not have a support network so we must adjust our business accordingly to gain custom from whoever rather than complain about our people not supporting us, they have been mind fcked all over the world so generally do not think straight, so even smart blacks may appear stupid due to brainwashing!
it would be nice if we had a support network like other groups but it just isn't there, and you are also right when you talk about looking to positive Black people for inspiration, there are Black people I look up to and admire and this is another thing that keeps me going. But if you study successful Black men carefully, what you will often find is that they are individually successful and have learned how to navigate this White run society.
We should not dwell on what has gone wrong but dwell on what we can do to change our circumstances.
You sound like a smart dude; you could be a powerful guy if you expressed your positive mentality more and seek union with like minded positive people, things will change for us eventually as nothing stays the same.
I'm sure their were black people during slavery who thought it was the end of the world for the Black race while those positive minded Black people fought on, and here we are 200 years later (MUCH BETTER OFF) slowly repairing the damage done to the minds of our people!
It will take time, all we have to do is keep pushing on!
-The Revolutionist
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I did't go "off topic" you were just to slow to realise that I was responding to statements such as;
You got off topic and named some African technicians and academics who probably benefited from the civil rights movements. We paved the way for them not the other way around."
I had given you one example of black unity and Non American Black contributions to American society, However, it flew over your head... I gave you names of many African Scientists who had taught within American universities with some being Black American owned.
There's nothing African-Americans could gain from global black unity. Everything we've achieved, we've done ourselves.
They influenced and taught many Black American scientists who are now contributing to society, their research papers would of helped American scientists white and Black develop new technologies and discoveries to help advance America. Some of those Non American scientists work for companies such as NASA and so on, contributing to American success!
Elijah Muhammed did not Co found NOI, you have now resorted to lying to prove Black American superiority.... LMBAO... At least you are now trying to research something, but you must do better than this!
How is a black American with African "grandparents" in 19th century America un-American? The early years of Prince Halls life are sketchy at best, he's been "alledged" by one writer to have been born in Barbados. There's much uncertainty about the origins of Wallace Fard Muhammad. Some say he was born in New Zealand others say Portland, Oregon. It matters little, the Nation of Islams longest serving and best leader was the Honorable Elijah Muhammad a Sandersville, Georgia native, who along with Fard co founded the organization.
The b-list entertainers, athletes an leaders of black foreign background have had little to no impact on black America.
Dude, Wallace fard was not American and even so, he was not even BLACK, simple as that... So we have a Non American creating the biggest Black group in America, Nation of Islam!.. Plus it is written he was heavily influenced by Marcus Garvey's (a Jamaican) Black Nationalist Movement!
...and if you want to bring up Elijah Muhammed, he had stated that he has only come to finish what those such as Marcus Garvey had started as he looked up to Marcus and Drew Ali!
“MESSENGER MUHAMMAD SPEAKS/THE LATE NOBLE DREW ALI & MARCUS GARVEY”
http://noitemple15.wordpress.com/messenger-mu...
Prince Hall was not an American, his early life is sketchy because the details are not recorded on American soil.... So we also have a Non American Black creating a group that would later host many notable Black Americans!
W.E.B. DuBois founded the Niagara movement, then later Co-founded the NAACP... He was the offspring of a Haitian and white American.
Also do you think that Civil rights began in the 1960's, LOL... Read up about Civil rights since the 1800's, many of the early black civl rights leaders from that time had immigrant parents...LMBAO
Every aspect of Black American society has been impacted with Non American Blacks, do you know why?... because all throughout the history of slavery in the states, slaves were shipped in from all over the Caribbean Islands, Europe and Africa! lol
-The Revolutionist
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Are you sure about that?...
Well thank goodness you are not weak minded (as I've said the race is filled with those). Facts are I don't preach separation of bm/bw..
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T52FEQ75E96BC...
I don't think bm/bw need each other.We can manage just fine as a separate group.I agree with bm.The black race is garbage.
The sentence is pretty self explanatory, you are an enemy of the Black race, even going as far as putting words into the mouths of black men!
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T52FEQ75E96BC...
Actually I'm a dark skinned bi racial.What real women are you referring to? the ones black men call themselves getting? lol.you all are so delusional.black men have monkey like behavior down to a science.good luck negro.
Saying blacks "act like Monkeys" while referring to us as "Negros" screams white b***ard as far as I am concerned, then you went a step further...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TGLS3LBOSD7BC...
you all are monkeys..
Personally, I believe you to be a white racist, I have thought this ever since I outed you as Lordy, Black-ex, dreams4u, Tamra, Bronze and some other name that I forgot, your plan is to cause division and hatred amongst blacks online.
You claimed to be Bi racial with a teenaged son but then you put up an Avatar picture of a teenaged black girl as you, when I pointed it out you then put a picture of a yellow skinned mix race women up, forgetting that you had said you were a "DARK SKINED BI-RACIAL" ...LOL
I don't believe a word of what you say and will not fall into your trap of trying to get Black men and women to battle one another.
We may be last in line as a race at the moment but we have been worse... Our race has already lived through Arab enslavement, Trans-atlantic slavery, at one point it was legal to kill and maim blacks or rape black women, segregation, Lynchings, outright racial abuse on the streets from whites, mass demonstrations and rioting just to get equal rights, in fact the last black man to be lynched was in 1981 and the last slave died in 1979, so since then we have become presidents and Billionaires, many educated and talented black people are contributing greatly to the world in many ways like never before!
No we haven't got it right just yet and are still lagging behind in many things, but we prefer to look forwards because if we look back, there are no better times or "good old days" behind us!
Show us an example of when the black race was doing better than they are doing now so we can reverse time and go there, or STFU and leave the Black community alone and let us move forward with positivity and not "this is the end for the Black race" bull.... We have survived much worse than we are going through today and are way better than we have ever been, our progress is slow but it is getting there slowly but surely!
-The Revolutionist
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Wow, Kashta's comments about women not having the right to demand equality because men invent everything (which is a misconception, there have been many female inventors) were out of line.
I think you're typing to a brick wall, he doesn't know how to think positive. I mean look at this vile comment:
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TEA55FHA58QBM...
I give up.
I cannot believe an intelligent person would make such comments like "women contribute little other than babies"!... Women gave birth to those Genius men who made the "ground breaking discoveries in science, the radio, television, nuclear weapons, quantum physics, air planes" that he talked about!
Women actually make the biggest contribution to mankind... MANKIND itself!...
The thing is, if every woman stopped producing babies tomorrow, within one hundred years there would be no human beings left!...(in fact this is how I believe mankind will end eventually, with a worldwide drop in birth rate)
We all entered this world through a women, all else is secondary!... All man's inventions/creations would be useless if women could not breed!
The fact that Kashta mentioned pregnant women looking like "big fat cows" signifies sexual tension (I won't go into how I know this) It is deep!
The brother just needs a good women, fast, he is frustrated (in more ways than one) and needs a wife, it comes across in that post he made!..
The Mad houses are lined with brothers who were once intelligent Warriors at some stage but allowed negative experiences with women and disillusionment concerning being a Black man in a Western society overtake their minds, I hope kashta is not going to add to that list but he is sounding surprisingly bitter for an intelligent person and for someone who claims to be successful!
-The Revolutionist
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Huh... "B-list" People like:
The b-list entertainers, athletes an leaders of black foreign background have had little to no impact on black America.
Fard Muhammad, Obama, Colin Powell, Prince Hall, Stokely Carmichael, Du Bois, Sidney Potier, Lenny Kravitz, Nia long, Tatyana Ali, Busta Rhymes, Biggie Small, Rihanna, Alesha Keys Donavan bailey, Inger Miller, Jimmy Hendrix, Forrest Whitaker, Blair Underwood, Louise Farrakhan, Tyson Beckford, Sean Kingston, Shaggy, Grace jones, KRS-One, Canibus, Africa Bambaata, Rayvon Cuba Gooding, LL cool J, Grandmaster flash, Doug E fresh, Megan Good, Ryan Leslie, Maxwell, Nicki Minaj, Alfonso Ribeiro....And millions more.
"Black Americans are the best singers, dancers, Athletes and entertainers" my black ass,
I haven't even gone into notable Americans with African parents yet, or freedom fighters, scientists and political figures with Non American parents, we would be here all fck'ng year if I did!
This is only a fraction of the list, it literally could go on forever. These people are, or have been Major players at some point regarding putting Black America on the map, they all either have foreign parents, or were born outside of America making them Non American....
This is a dead point which I have repeatedly shot to pieces, and only a clueless American buffoon like you would be stupid enough to believe....LMFAO...
Everything we've achieved, we've done ourselves.
I have only responded to you due to the fact that I have some spare moments to waste, but you are clearly an empty headed waste of time and space who knows Jack diddly about even your own history, do some studying then get back to me!...
Any Black American who claims;
....is clearly not on my level, and definitely not ready to stand against me in any debate on Black history.
Elijah Muhammad a Sandersville, Georgia native along with Fard co founded the organization.
After making a statements like the above it is clear that you are reading the Disney version of Black history, you cannot keep up with me...
Goodbye Jack__!
-The Revolutionist
Note by Me: Not to mention that my ancestors come from the Caribbean from my mother's side, so this information has a special resonance to me.
By Timothy
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