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Marvin
a month ago
Seems Matt.D got most offended / his feelings got 'hurt' the most when Dr Egnor suggested Matt's not really a true atheist- Humm...
Matt's & Tyler's ilk just don't get it, it totally inconsistent for atheists to assert there's no such thing as objective moral truth on one, deny events in the Bible [ala the Passover & the Noahtic Flood] even ever happened out one side of their mouth, while making 'moral judgments' about them out the other side of their mouth. DJ.by19 once loud asserted 'God's a 'moral-monster', all while denying God exists & denying there's even a such thing as objective moral truth. Yet he claimed those assertion(s) was / were perfectly 'logical' [NOT!]- WOW!!
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Gary Whittenberger
2 months ago
From Wikipedia: Lazarus Syndrome: } also known as autoresuscitation after failed cardiopulmonary resuscitation, is the spontaneous return of a normal cardiac rhythm after failed attempts at resuscitation. Its occurrence has been noted in medical literature at least 38 times since 1982. It takes its name from Lazarus who, as described in the New Testament, was raised from the dead by Jesus. - Occurrences of the syndrome are extremely rare, and the causes are not well understood...
Cases: Anthony Yahle, 37, in Bellbrook, Ohio, USA, was breathing abnormally at 4 a.m. on 5 August 2013, and could not be woken. After finding that Yahle had no pulse, first responders administered CPR and were able to retrieve a stable-enough heartbeat to transport him to the emergency room. Later that afternoon, he again suffered cardiac arrest for 45 minutes at Kettering Medical Center and was pronounced dead after all efforts to resuscitate him failed. When his son arrived at the hospital to visit his supposed-to-be deceased father, he noticed a heartbeat on the monitor that was still attached to his father. Resuscitation efforts were resumed, and Yahle was successfully revived.
- The Record: Velma Thomas, 59, of Nitro, West Virginia, USA holds the record time for recovering from clinical death. In May 2008, Thomas went into cardiac arrest at her home. Medics were able to establish a faint pulse after eight minutes of CPR. Her heart stopped twice after arriving at the hospital and she was placed on life support. Doctors attempted to lower her body temperature to prevent additional brain injury. She was declared clinically dead for 17 hours after doctors failed to detect brain activity. Her son, Tim Thomas, stated that "her skin had already started hardening, her hands and toes were curling up, they were already drawn". She was taken off life support and funeral arrangements were in progress. However, ten minutes after being taken off life support, she revived and recovered. {
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Gary Whittenberger
2 months ago
Per you: 'The brain dies... approximately from 0 to 30 minutes since stoppage of the heart and lungs.'
You are aware that there're documented NDE cases where the patient revived well over 30 mins after the heart & lung had 'flat-lined'. In some of these cases the patient was unhooked from life-support & even removed from the ER. In some cases the patient was actually taken to the morgue where they spontaneously 'revived'- HRS after their heart, lungs & brain had 'flat-lined'. The longest such case I know of that's been documented, the patient spontaneously revived 17 - 18 HRS after she was pronounced clinically dead.
You may say ZERO, yet there have been 1000s of documented NDE cases from around the World over the past several decades.
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