Words from 2tuff and others

http://www.shoahrose.com/vatican.html

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=141125

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=141049

http://www.americanholocaust.50megs.com/Yassir.htm

As far as I'm concerned these types of people are an annoyance and think they know more than they really do. So what if they wish to disbelieve the truth and Eric Phelps, its their lose not ours. Eventually after trying to teach many people information you get to this frame of mind.People slag off Eric all the time claiming nonsense about him. They go on about references etc but forget that Eric utilises 1000 pages and dont forget all those books given away with his first book. Now look at the new VAIII 1500 pages etc. How many have done this? How many have had the knowledge of these old works he supplied. You see because his information is not the normal CLAPTRAP that goes around people attack it. Too many Agents spreading disinformation around which easily gets latched onto. You even get pathetic debunkers claiming silly thinks like it was jews dancing on 911 not Jesuits. Do these people believe the Jesuits would get their hands dirty? Dr Rivera explains this well in the video. Believe me the 4th Vow were very happy on 9-11 and of course the Maltese Knights of the Round Table who had a more closer hands on in the developement of Gesus's agenda.Remember Eric Phelps is known as"MR HISTORY"

Real History, not bunkum!

-2tuff

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ov3rkomer: Personally, I like to check things out and check for a trail of evidence. So far the things I was able to cross-check from Eric's information all turned out to be true. I checked some of his info concerning WW2 and Pope Pius XII with my german books. The information was confirmed and I found out that Pius XII was literally surrounded by Jesuits. Additional to the german Jesuit Bea, the german Jesuit Leiber, who are mentioned by Phelps. Pius XII had another 3 german Jesuit advisors named Hentrich, Gundlach and Hürth. He was literally surrounded by german Jesuits; the ideal setup for controlling the Pope and directing Germany from the Vatican.Some people obviously do not want consider evidence or logical reasoning. In the end, the guy on the other forum never tried to reply to the facts and went ahead with personal attacks against Eric and myself. I answered him, because he tried to put people off the material I had posted. Even if he does not respond to reason, other people on the board may be convinced.

Dear Friends,

Satan's Papacy was born in 312 AD with Constantine becoming the first Papal Caesar The pagan Council of Nicea (325) solidified and defined his power. Since 1814 the Jesuit General (the Black Pope) has controlled the Papacy. If a Pope becomes disobedient or rebellious to the Black Pope's commands, he is punished (like Pope Pius IX) or is murdered (like Pope John Paul I). Thus, the Jesuit General was in command of Vatican I (1870) and Vatican II (1963-65). All the lasting decrees of those Councils were written from Jesuit penholders (like Cardinal Avery Dulles presently at Fordham University in New York). In conclusion, neither the Council of Nicea nor the Second Vatican Council hijacked the Vatican. The Jesuit General, using his military Company of Jesus, hijacked the Papacy in 1814 and has retained his absolute power over the Vatican Empire since that fateful year.

Sincerely in Faith,

Brother Eric

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http://www.cloakanddagger.de/shows/_archives/Phelps/_CLOAK_PHELPS_JUN2.mp3


From http://www.davidickeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1395&start=1215


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I came across this strange book while looking for VA:

http://www.markriebling.com/archives/00000230.html

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Vatican Assassins The Pope, The Jesuits, and the Plot to Kill Hitler Preface How I Came Upon This Story Chapter 1 Darkness over the Earth Sidebars, Appendices, & Out-Takes Was the Pope a Nazi?

Looks like he used the same title on purpose to confuse others. Is this an indirect attempt at 'debunking' the original VA by the Vatican?


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Another article by this guy reveals the 'cozy' relationship between the Pope and Reagan:

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Among the more lasting impressions conveyed by these papers is the sheer deference showed by Reagan’s working-level staffers toward the pope, even when the two sides were at odds over policy. Admiration for this pope’s spiritual leadership has stripped Protestant White House staffers of any evident cynicism. They pun about a papal "missile" on disarmament, but are in dead earnest in their respect, and at times even reverence, for the Holy Father. Reagan himself, in his letters to Pope John Paul II, admits to being uniquely inspired by the leadership of the pope. The letters have an intensely personal quality, a warmth and light, which is striking when compared to the no less sincere, but far more formalistic, expressions of solidarity made by FDR to the World War II pope, Pius XII.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/riebling200504040753.asp





He makes it sound - oh so harmless, but reading between the lines this 'deference showed by Reagan’s working-level staffers toward the pope' confirms who is the boss here. Its amazing how much these people reveal, while trying to whitewash the Vatican.





-ov3rkomer








I doubt him trying to do anything against Eric Phelps by having this title which if you think about it could be easy to come up with.





Theres no at odds between sides when it comes to U.S Government and Jesuit/Vatican wants. The United States is the Corporation of the Jesuits thanks to its control of Britain.





Whatever the Jesuits wish for the United States, THE JESUITS GET through its Council on Foreign Relations controlled by the Jesuits brothers the Sovereign Military of Malta headed in the region within New York (The EMPIRE STATE) by the Maltese Knights of the Round Table headed by the Archbishop of New York. Theres no sides or differences of opinions, YOU DO NOT GO AGAINST THE VATICAN POWER! The only differences will occur within the populance or should I say slaves. This is why we're given the movie directed by the Jesuits in order to manipulate and create alchemy amongst the minds of the populance in order for the agenda to be accepted. This usually includes much chaos in order to get order known as ORDO AB CHAO (Latin for Order out of Chaos).





Georgetown University rules the United States and its second in command Fordham University. Ronald Reagan was very friendly with Pope John Paul II because they both we're victims of plots on their lives. Remember that Reagan was GROOMED for President ever since he made the film where hes a football player at Notre Dame. Knight of Malta, Russell Trust and high Templar Bush SNR became the driving force of the White House almost 100% after Reagan was almost whacked and even more useless. The same happened within the Vatican and it was good old Ratzinger who was the main man and this is why he got the position he has today. Try and check out the great picture on here somewhere and in the Jesuit Threads I've spread around showing Ronald Reagan at Georgetown with his Jesuit masters. Check out the information on Vatican Assassins about Reagan and the Knights of Malta.











SMOM Knight Ronald Reagon with JESUIT masters at GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY








Papal Knight Senator Ted Kennedy and Robert F. Drinan SJ








SMOM Knight Tony Blair





-2TUFF
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From http://p4.forumforfree.com/3-vt559-mindscapes.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

Look at this! Georgetown Jesuit Robert Drinan openly opposed the Vietnam War. Secretly, the Order was behind it via its Council on Foreign Relations not to mention the Jesuit "Father Hawk" Dan Lyons advising both Generals Westmoreland and Abrams. This same pattern can be seen in Nazi Germany. Bavarian Jesuit Meyer was openly opposed to Hitler; secretly the Order backed Hitler and controlled his SS. After the war the SS became the Cold War's CIA---the heart of the Black Pope's International Intelligence Community---including the Mossad. The Order also used Drinan to remove the disobedient Nixon from office. Nixon sought to blackmail the CIA over the Kennedy assassination due to CIA complicity in the Watergate scandal. Nixon crossed the Order and paid for it with the presidency; and the risen Lord Jesus Christ would not protect him for his blaming the control of the press on His beloved Hebrew/Jewish/Israelitic people in general and not the Pope's CFR-controlled Masonic Jewish Zionists (addressed in Revelation 18:4) in particular.

Sincerely in the Faith,

Brother Eric

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:11 PM

Goss, Priest Among Those Honored by House Distinguished Service Awards Given to Former Representatives by DEAN NORLAND May 10, 2006 — -

It was described as a diverse group -- a priest, a former ambassador, the director of an intelligence agency and a vice president. The one thing they shared was their former service in the U.S. House of Representatives. In a ceremony just a few feet away from the chamber where they all once served, the House honored four of its former members with the Distinguished Service Award. Selected to receive the award by the Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., were Vice President Dick Cheney and outgoing CIA Director Porter Goss. They were joined by former U.S. ambassador to the Vatican Lindy Boggs and Father Robert Drinan, both chosen by House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. Goss, who represented a Florida district in the House from 1989 to 2004, made a surprise announcement last week that he was leaving the CIA in the next few weeks. He took the occasion of the Capitol awards ceremony to praise the agency he was departing. "The men and women of the CIA are extraordinarily talented," Goss said. "They are doing amazing work for our country and its well-being, and our citizens at home and abroad." Lindy Boggs, who served in the House from Louisiana from 1973 to 1991, took the opportunity in accepting her award to ask Congress for more help for her hurricane-ravaged state and the city of New Orleans, where she still resides on Bourbon Street. "We need your continued help and support in rebuilding our levees, our economy and community, and in healing our families," she said. Father Robert Drinan, a Jesuit Catholic priest, was a member of Congress from Massachusetts from 1971 to 1981. A vocal opponent of the Vietnam War, he was so upset by the Watergate scandal that he was the first member of Congress to introduce a resolution calling for the impeachment of President Richard Nixon. In accepting the award, Drinan said, "There is seldom any honor that is more appreciated than a tribute from one's former colleagues." Cheney, who represented Wyoming from 1979 to 1989, said he still thinks of the House as his political home. He confided to the audience that his ambition as a congressman was to one day serve as speaker of the House, but he never made it. He quipped that he had to "settle for second best and preside over the Senate."