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VIDEO: Infowars' Kevin Smith On Fox News "Mancow" Show
Paul Joseph WatsonSunday, November 19, 2006
Segment from Fox News' pilot "Mancow" show in which Infowars' Kevin Smith debates a ground zero fireman on the 9/11 inside job. Despite a deliberate attempt to ridicule and distract Kevin, most viewers felt he did a stand up job in exposing 9/11 truth under difficult circumstances.
Notice how, according to Kevin, they had to shoot multiple takes for over an hour and yet the producers and Mancow chose to leave in the one take where Kevin makes a slight verbal slip-up and jokingly says "cut." Would the scene have been re-shot if the fireman had encountered a similar tongue twister?
Mancow and Fox News have to cover 9/11, they are forced into doing so because due to our work and the efforts of others - 9/11 truth is part of the cultural zeitgeist whether they like it or not.
In the end it doesn't really matter that this was a hit piece because the sheep - regular Fox News Bush bootlickers - who will never take a look at the evidence don't count, they are not in the game. Those still sitting on the fence who research 9/11 as a result of seeing this show will doubtless come to same conclusions as we have, and for that we thank Mancow and Fox News for helping us reach more people!
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New "Planet Mancow" Fox Show Features Infowars Team MemberKevin Smith debates 9/11 fireman in expected hit piece
Kevin SmithPrison PlanetFriday, November 17, 2006
Planet Mancow8:00-9:00pm CST Fox News Channel
Popular radio personality Erich “Mancow” Muller talks with William Shatner about the influence of “Star Trek”; 9/11-conspiracy theories with Kevin Smith and New York City firefighter Brian Harvey, who was at Ground Zero. Also: Youtube.com “stars” Lazydork and Triviagirl are featured.
The above blurb was taken the Fox News Channel website.
As listeners, readers, and viewers of The Alex Jones Show and www.infowars.com, many of you have heard Alex speak of his appearances on the Mancow radio show from time to time, as well as an in studio when Alex and the Infowars crew were at the Chicago 9/11 Conference. Mancow is known for over the top, in your face radio, so when the opportunity arose for a new series on Fox, he immediately thought of Alex for the pilot episode.
This is where I come in, due to family commitments Alex was unable to attend the filming in NYC, so he asked me to help the producers find a suitable replacement. The set-up was this; debate the merits of 9/11 being an inside job against a disabled and dying member of the New York Fire Department, named Brian Harvey.
Not exactly the most inviting of scenarios, but I did my best to give them the best possible person to debate Mr. Harvey. I offered William Rodriquez, Kevin Ryan, Prof. Steven Jones, etc., none of which they wanted. I told the producers “I know what you’re trying to do”; “you don’t want other victims or degreed experts, you want some sort of low-brow shouting match”. I related to Mancow’s people that I didn’t feel right putting our friends into this situation, that’s when they said, “how about you? You know the topic, you’ve got a bit of an edge to you, what do you think?” I told them that it was up to Alex, so the next morning Alex agreed and the following day I was on my way to the Big Apple.
My plan was to show-up with dying 9/11 hero Major Mike McCormack from Homeland Security’s Disaster Relief Command, as you might remember Mike was the gentleman who spoke at Community Church in NYC on September 9, 2006, and subsequently SWAT teamed on Tuesday September 12, 2006. Unfortunately Mike’s health is deteriorating so rapidly that he was unable to leave his oxygen machine that day.
The driver picked me up from the hotel and delivered me to a Fox production studio at noon for make-up, they actually used an airbrush to lay down a couple of coats. The first segment taped was a piece on William Shatner, although he wasn’t there. So the first actual segment to be filmed was of NYFD Brian Harvey vs. me. Since this was the first episode, they we’re trying many different shooting angles, intros, and outros. But it became quickly apparent that they weren’t getting what they wanted out of me. I started out with my best Alex Jones styled rant looking right into the same camera that Mancow was reading the teleprompter from, after I laid out the inside job facts in bullet point fashion, came the first of many in the next hour and a half, “CUT”.
They then asked Mancow to put on a headset and talk to the control room, and later actually leaving the set altogether to discuss how to best to get me. Each time Mancow did the lead-in he did the same thing over and over again, when it came time to introduce me he would swallow, roll his eyes, and make a comment about the ‘grassy knoll’, the fact that I had to hear myself being mocked and knew it was coming each time did start to bother me. We went through many different scenarios on how the questions were posed to each of us, and of course I dominated the debate and wouldn’t follow Mancow down his rabbit holes. The solution was to ask Mr. Harvey the leading questions and then have me respond to him. The order of taping was disjointed, filming the closing comments before middle segments, filming the intro over and over again. For example, after my first scene when I looked directly into the camera and started the info-drive-by, I was stopped. Then it was decided that I should look at Mancow and direct my comments towards him, due to the fact that Mancow was a foot away from me, it made it a little harder to keep up the intensity, it would’ve looked like I was a crazy person yelling in his face. The next tactic was the most successful, I was to look into the eyes of this misguided brave fireman and read him the riot act, and this would be the clip I’d expect them to use.
During the interview while Mancow was attempting to put words in my mouth, he started saying “so Hillary huh, standing on the grassy knoll”, I just gave him a blank look and said “who said anything about Hillary”, I said “if you want to know about Hillary, why don’t you ask Roger Ailes or Rupert Murdoch they eat dinner with her every week”, then came the expected “CUT”. At one point when Mancow was asking Mr. Harvey “if he had it all to do it over again, would he”, that’s when I jumped in and said “of course he would, he’s a hero, he’s a fireman, he was a hero before 9/11, that’s why we love firemen and are trying to get them treatment”. This is the way it went for over an hour, I was told the segment would be between 6 and 8 minutes, the last event of note was Mancow telling Mr. Harvey to look into my eyes and tell me I’m crazy! He wouldn’t do it! He said “look he’s very passionate about what he believes and I don’t agree with him, but I don’t think he’s crazy”.
After we we’re done taping, back in the green room, I had a chance to speak calmly to Brian. Before we parted company, I gave him ‘TerrorStorm’ and ‘9/11 Mysteries: Part 1 Demolitions. I also gave him contact information for other victims of 9/11 who live in the area, so that when the truth hits him square in the face, he’ll have the support that he needs.
I only hope that through the magic of editing, I didn’t do anything to harm the 9/11 truth movement, at best we we’re able to get the websites more attention, at worst it might be similar to the Southpark 9/11 episode where we debate whether the beating we took was worth it, just to get some of our evidence out to a new audience.
Powerful 9/11 Info Hits Prime-Time TV for First TimeLow-Brow FOX Hit-Piece Fails to Counter Evidence of an Inside Job
Aaron Dykes & Alex JonesJones Report.comSunday, November 19, 2006
FOX News national TV special ' Planet Mancow' featured a slew of pop-culture junkets, a celebrity interview with William Shatner and an attempt to slander 9/11 Truth by putting one of its spokesmen, Infowars' Kevin Smith, face-to-face with dying fireman Brian Harvey, who rescued victims after the attacks.
The host of the program, Chicago-based radio personality Erich "Mancow" Muller, tried to portray his guest Kevin Smith--producer for the Alex Jones radio show-- as a backwoods conspiracy nut living in a shed; however, neither Mancow nor Harvey could refute any of Smith's information-- they could only restate their disbelief.
Despite the fact that this was an orchestrated hit piece, new information that has never been uttered on prime time television, such as government funding and sponsorship of Al-Qaeda in Serbia and also the U.S. government training the alleged 9/11 hijackers, came to the fore for the first time.
Smith brought up the fact that several of the alleged hijackers lived at the Pensacola, Florida Naval Air Station, according to addresses listed on their licenses and the fact that Mohammad Atta and others were trained at a base in Monterrey, California, as well as the the fact that Osama bin Laden was a known CIA asset. He also mentions Actor James Woods' eye-witness account of four alleged 9/11 hijackers during a "dry-run" flight.
Kevin Smith also covered WTC Building 7's mysterious collapse and the poll-supported fact that 9/11 Truth is no longer a 'fringe' theory (84% reject the Official 9/11 account, believing the Bush Administration is either 'hiding something' or 'lying' in a scientific Angus-Reid poll and over 1/3 believe the U.S. Government carried out 9/11 attacks according to a scientific Scripps-Howard poll).
Though the hit-piece sought to discredit theorists, it was fair compared with the usual FOX News treatment for 9/11 'conspiracy nuts.' If Bill O'Reilly were to set the bar, 9/11 guests should expect to have their mics cut off, have relevant information over-run by banter until commercial break, or, as in the case of Jim Fetzer's appearance, have O'Reilly even call for FBI surveillance and arrest.
Mancow did let Infowars producer Kevin Smith talk, though the pre-taped special did cut out some of his information-- including the fact that Terrorstorm is available free on Google Video, after host Mancow called 9/11 conspiracies 'big business' and suggested that theorists are only trying to make a buck.
Smith also says he was asked specifically who he would blame for the 9/11 attacks. But his naming Dick Cheney-- after former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta testified that Cheney maintained a stand-down order on the morning of September 11 as a plane was approaching the Pentagon-- was CUT FROM AIRING on the program as well.
-Mancow and co. try to insinuate a rift between 9/11 Truthers and firemen, by asking his guests to 'arm wrestle' and calling on Infowars' Smith to direct comments towards fireman Brian Harvey, when evidence of an inside job and controlled demolition of the Twin Towers have nothing to do with the heroic firefighters who rescued victims on 9/11. Mancow seeks again and again to make Harvey the victim of Smith's 'conspiracy nut' theories.
This is a false link when Bill Doyle, the head of the largest victims' families group believes 9/11 was an inside job, as do a majority of the fireman, police officers and military personnel the Infowars Team encountered on the fifth anniversary of 9/11.
Police protected 9/11 Truth demonstrators, vouching for their right to speak, as well as shaking their hands, thanking those investigating and even asking for copies of 9/11 films such as Loose Change.
- Mancow used all the cliche straw man attacks to diminish the perception of 9/11 Truth, including naming the segment 'The Grassy Knoll,' asking Smith about Bigfoot, the Lockness monster, space aliens and even launching into an unprompted special interlude titled "Lies on the Internet." Mancow claims the Internet says he stars in the film 'Alien vs. Predator.' If there's disinformation on the web about Mancow, everything on the web must also be disinformation...
-Mancow may continue to clear his throat in the presence of theories about 9/11 he doesn't want to believe, but he still cannot counter the actual information presented. Prime time audiences are bound to find hosts like Mancow to be entertaining and 9/11 Truthers like Kevin Smith to be clear winners in the debate for real information about the September 11 attacks.
- Harvey tried to debunk Kevin Smith's claim that the founding fathers made numerous quotes saying the people should never trust government. Here are just a couple.
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is force. And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington
"The way to have safe government is not to trust it all."Thomas Jefferson