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JazzI December 5, 2008 2:41 AM Reply
To those who wonder why we pro-life would recommend adoption who is pregnant because of rape. Here is one reason: A woman who is rape never forgets that she was raped. A woman who is encouraged to have an abortion and consented will remember for the rest of her life she had an abortion. This means that she is not only raped but also killed her own flesh and blood. She will remain a victim not only of rape but also deceit of societal support of killing her own child. The spirit of the child, the sex of the child and the age the child could have been will always linger in her mind for the rest of her life. This is the greatest tyranny in todays society. The woman undergoes physical pain and psychological suffering after the abortion while the man who rape her is rarely charged of the case nor held responsible because the woman stays silent through the abortion. Ask yourself what did the child/fetus do to deserve such treatment at the most vulnerable moment in his/her development. Other than the fact that the fetus is unable to defend him/herself. Do we kill the parents of criminals? Of course not! But we don't mind killing the child of woman who is raped! This makes any sense?
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JazzI December 5, 2008 3:08 AM Reply
Another question to ask yourself. Is it right to kill a child of a rapist? If your answer is no! Then why is it perfectly okay to kill the fetus? Is the fetus at fault for his/her existance? Is the rapist father punished by the abortion? The answer is no! Is the rapist father hurt by the abortion? Physically - No! Psychologically - No! He does not care!
Is the woman physically and psychologically affected by abortion? Yes! Women who has undergone abortion never forgets the abortion! If she carried the child to term then at least her conscience is clear! Because killing a child is not justification for a rape case. And, being raped and becoming a killer to your own child/fetus is a big deal! Biologically speaking the child is 50% the mother's genetic make-up. The child is also clear of conscience from the father's crime. This is why we do not kill nor imprison family of criminals on the basis of heredity! Again, check the legal facts!
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kit, I read your words in their entirety. Here's my response:
I fully realize the issue of abortion. Abortion (whether you wish to ignore the definition or not) is about intentional destruction of innocent human life. I will forever talk about the killing of unborn human beings, because exposing evil is always moral. I never said that killing unborn babies is not the same as killing humans in wars, starvation, etc. I've made it clear that I oppose the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I'm an American citizen here. Some hypocritical liberals support possible wars in Pakistan (and love the war hawks in the proposed Barack Obama cabinet), but they oppose the war in Iraq. Roe v. Wade was about legal sanction of killing people. Roe says that you can kill innocent unborn babies under certain circumstances. We just disagree on that issue. We have a right to disagree. Roe v. Wade supported the lie that the ripping apart of a child's organs is equated to choice or privacy rights. Yet, there is not a single word in the Constitution saying that destroying unborn lives is about choice at all. The Supreme Court just used deception in promoting that myth.
I understand the court decision of Roe, so I don't need to be reminded of it. I never stereotype liberals either. Many liberals are pro-life. I just criticize the extremist pro-abortion crowd that hate any restrictions on abortion. I don't consider real freedom of choice to be equated to abortion at all. So, I do believe that freedom of choice is not a license to kill. I do have a right to speak my mind on issues. I don't have a right to control your life. On the otherhand, I have every right to stop murder, expose corruption, and propose changes to unjust laws. That's in the Constitution also. The Constitution limits human behavior on many levels. That means you can't do what you want whenever you want, unless you are willing to violate many laws (and violate many moral principle). I have read the Constitution before. Your arrogance about us being ignorant of the Constitution deserves no further commentary at all.
Barack Obama can make abortion more avaliable with the FOCA law or him changing certain executive orders. There is nothing wrong with sincere dissent at all. Dissent is as American as apple pie. I don't believe in fear, except fear in God. I don't gain support by promoting unnecessary fear. I do gain support by utilizing logical arguments, making sure that real history is shown, and possessing a fearless determination to strengthen the pro-life movement. I do things constructive. That is another misconnection you make of pro-life people. Pro-Life people for decades have supported education, create crisis pregnancy centers, protest, read, advance anti-AIDS programs, etc. to make a difference in society. These actions are not only done in America, but worldwide.
You understand this, but you seem to want to promote stereotypes about pro-life individuals. Judgments? Passing judgments about war, peace, society, etc. is apart of free speech. Judging evil as wrong is apart of our human duty. I will pass judgments on immorality and expose destructive actions as wrong. We Pro-Lifers are educated, we do read, and we have plenty of intelligence in our mind. These are other stereotypes you bring without exposing what abortion is. Abortion is about killing people. It's just as wrong as immoral wars. My mother not aborting me is more than just about her harboring a good choice. It's a blessing. To bring up a mother in a conversation to justify Roe is not disrespectful and sick, but outlines the desperation you have in trying to advance the agenda of Roe.
Our movement doesn't want to destroy the freedom of choice in America. You just want to destroy the freedom of choice for the unborn. Choice means nothing if a baby dies. Abortion ends choices. It doesn't promote choices at all. That's pretty simple to comprehend.
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Lou | December 4, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply
Human development: During the first trimester, the little one has a nose, eyes, mouth and ears. She has a face. She sucks her thumb, which has a unique thumbprint. She has a beating heart. She kicks and swims.
Abortion methods:
- Shred the little ones by using a vacuum tube. Their bodies are so fragile that they are simply pulled apart.
- Use a loop shaped knife, a curette, to cut them in little pieces.
- Use a saline solution to poison the little one. Her skin is burned off, but it is the ingestion of saline that ultimately kills her.
- Use a clamping device to pull the child apart. Typically a shoulder or hip is grasped and twisted off. Her body is easily ripped apart, but her head may present problems because the tissue is not so soft. Sometimes it is floating in her mommy's womb and the abortionist has to fish for it.
- Deliver the baby feet first up to her neck. Then stab her in the head to create an opening so that her brains may be sucked out.
Nebraska abortionist Leroy Carhart testified that after a little one has been stabbed in the skull she is likely still alive. He likened it to a gun shot would that does not immediately kill the victim. He then testified that after her brains have been sucked out that her heart may continue to beat.
A good abortionist will wade through the remains and make sure he has all the pieces. Leaving an arm, leg, kidney or heart behind in mommy's womb is bad for business.
The right to do such nasty things is belief among liberals.
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