Friday, January 09, 2009

Eric on Prophecy

Eric, this will be harsh critiscism.

Aside from correctly proclaiming God created the world and the KJV is scripture, everytime you preach what is in the Word is wrong. Every time.

Everything you must have learned in the bible college is wrong, concerning scripture understanding. You preach Scofield almost word for word, and he was an heretical Jesuit deceiver. This is what is taught in colleges.

By the time I arrived at Baptist Bible College at Clark's Summit, Pennsylvania, in 1977, I was reading the AV1611 Bible literally, as did C. I. Scofield, Alva J. McClain, George Peters, E. Shyler English, Lewis Sperry Chafer, Arno C. Gabelein, William R. Newell, Dwight Pentecost, Ford Ottman, David Baron, Clarence Larkin and a host of other Bible scholar/students of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The doctrines of Soteriology, Ecclesiology and Eschatology all must be developed by reading the Bible literally without redefining the basic meaning of words, be they Greek, Hebrew or English. Scofield was not a Jesuit as there is no proof for such a charge. But I will agree that these early dispensationalists departed from attacking the papacy (contrary to the amillennial Reformers) and for teaching that the coming antichrist of Revelation 13 and 17 would be another Roman Papal Caesar. Thus, they fell into the unbiblical, corrupt-futurist error first developed by Jesuits Lucunza and Ribera. Shall I call Spurgeon a Jesuit because he fell for the lies of Jesuits Westcott and Hort as well as the Jesuit-dominated English Revision Committee that put forth the foundation for all the new, pro-Council of Trent English Bibles? No, Spurgeon, the "Prince of Preachers" fell into Jesuit-authored error as did these early dispensationalists.

I want to go back to the 70 Weeks of Daniel because there is no future 7 or 3.5 year trib period. We've been in tribulation every since the papal inquisition began 538 AD. It will not end until Christ comes.

Disagreed. This date of 538 AD has no foundation in either the true, literal reading of the Bible or in true, verifiable history. The pope's Holy Office of the Inquisition began in about 1207 AD and raged under the oversight of nearly 80 popes ending in 1808 at the hand of Napoleon I. You, like the Seventh-Day Adventists, have recklessly contorted literal, prophectic language by converting 1260 "days" into 1260 "years," a linguistic liberty which you have no right to take. You have departed from the literal reading of Rev. 12:6 (1260 days) and Rev. 11:2 (forty-two months which equals 1260 days), rather converting 1260 "days" into 1260 "years" without scriptural grounds. Why not convert the six "days" of creation into six "years" of creation? To be consistent in changing the word "days" into "years", you must apply this unfounded, anti-futurist, historicist rule to every passage of Scripture that speaks of literal days. This would bring absolute confusion to every doctrine in the Word of God. Maybe Christ arose from the dead, not after three "days" but after three "years"? If I would agree with your definition of "day" then this conclusion is a necessity.

Concerning the 70 Weeks which were fulfilled in Christ, the Messiah.

Scofield theology says Jesus became Messiah when he rode the donkey in town, but this is not right and just one of many problems with Scofield's theology. Jesus did fulfill the OT prophecy of riding the donkey into town, but He became Messiah with anointment from the Holy Ghost at His baptism, beginning his earthly ministry. Then counting back from there arrives at the correct decree to rebuild Jerusalem. I mean right at the correct decree, just as God prophesied!

Disagreed. First, there is no such thing as "Scofield Theology." There is Biblical dispensationalism that is a conclusion of literal understanding of words, phrases, paragraphs, chapters and books of the Bible. Dispensationalism is not a system of understanding the Bible; it is the result of reading the Bible in a literal fashion (unless the text indicates otherwise, which texts are few and far between). Dispensationalism is an end, not the beginning of Biblical understanding. And as you know, "dispensation" is a Bible word found in Ephesians 1:10 and 3:2. To ignore the fact that there are specific dispensations as stated in the Bible is to do violence to the Word of God. I trust this is not the case, dear brother.

Luke 3:21-23 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age,

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Mark 1:9,14,15 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

The word "Messiah" comes from the Hebrew word, "Mashiach," which in Greek is translated as "Christos" which means ANOINTED ONE. Here we see plainly that the New testament Word does in fact declare Jesus to be, the Messiah," "the Christ," "the Anointed One."

Agreed. Jesus of Nazareth became "the Christ," "the Anointed One," "Mashiach," on the day he was baptized in the Jordan River by John the Prophet, the last of the Old Testament Hebrew Prophets. The Lord Jesus Christ admitted that he was "Messiah" to the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4:25-26. He admitted that he was Messiah/Son of God to the blind man (John 9:36). He did state that he was Messiah to certain of the Jews (John 10:25), by stating that he was the "I AM" of Exodus 3:14, God manifest in the flesh (John 8:58) of which Messiah must be the Son of God (Ps. 2). He admitted that he was the Messiah to the apostle Peter in Matthew 16:16-17. But in verse 20 he then "charged his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ." Why??? Jesus of Nazareth never allowed his disciples to tell anyone the he was the Christ. That national declaration to Israel, specifically to Jerusalem, was reserved to Christ himself, and it was to be fulfilled one and only one way. That one way was specified by the prophet Zechariah (Zech. 9:9). On the day the Lord Jesus Christ rode the colt of a donkey into Jerusalem, on that day Zechariah 9:9 was LITERALLY fulfiled in that Jesus declared himself to Jerusalem (as per Zechariah 9:9 and Daniel 9:16, the following prophecy of the Seventy Weeks of Years relating specifically to Jerusalem) that he was the Christ. Yes, Jesus Christ read the scripture LITERALLY and fulfilled portions of it LITERALLY and will fulfill every future prophecy concerning himself---LITERALLY. So we must distinguish between Jesus of Nazareth being anointed Messiah by God the Holy Spirit at his baptism at the beginning of his ministry, and the Lord Jesus Christ declaring himself to be the Messiah to Jerusalem as per Zechariah 9:9 which is quoted in EVERY GOSPEL---Matthew 21, Mark 11, Luke 19 and John 12. This difference is critical to recognize in order to understand the LITERAL fulfullment of the Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks (Daniel 9:24-27).

Continuing, on the very day the Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled Zechariah 9:9, Psalm 118:25-26 was also fulfilled. When riding into Jerusalem from the Mount of Olives, his disciples cried out "Hosanna [Save Now] to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the hightest." (Matt.21:9). This open proclamation to Jerusalem that he was Jesus the promised Messiah, in fulfilling Zechariah 9:9, was called by Jesus himself "this thy day." This specific day is the day referred to in Daniel 9:25 in the phrase "Messiah the Prince." From the command to rebuild Jerusalem (not the temple) to the arrival of Messiah the Prince to Jerusalem would be 483 years of the Hebrew Calendar. The days are 173,880 days from the command to build Jerusalem (as found only in Nehemiah 2:1-6) to the arrival of Jesus the Messiah to Jerusalem as per Zechariah 9:9. This was fulfilled LITERALLY to the day, for which reason the Lord Jesus Christ used the phrase "this thy day" as referenced above. If you date the command to rebuild the city of Jerusalem in any other year than 445 BC (in the 20th year of King Artaxerxes) you will never arrive at a LITERAL FULFILLMENT of Daniel 9:25.


Here are a couple pages documenting the origins of Scofield theology. We have the original book written by the Catholic Jesuit Priest Ribera, 1590, as a new interpretation on Revelation to counter the Protestant Reformation.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/antichrist.htm

Ribera NEVER fully explained the literal fulfillment of Daniel 9:25----NEVER. That project was reserved to one of the Lord's greatest Biblical investigators of the 19th Century, Sir Robert Anderson. His work, The Coming Prince, has never been refuted by anyone including amillennialist Philip Mauro. Remember also that amillennialism is Roman Papal eschatology and a few of the saved, Bible-believing, ex-Roman Catholic Reformers espoused that Romish heresy.

This developed into the Scofield notes for the entire KJV Bible. Other corrupt Bible versions have since been published.
Timeline chart on the 70 weeks and 1260 years
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/dan927.htm

The Scofield notes in the 1909 edition of the unaltered AV1611 Scofield Bible are most excellent. I learned much from them as they were are literal in their explanation of the Bible. Scofield, like Spurgeon, missed the papal Jesuit Conspiracy of the English Revision Committe. And Scofield, like you, missed the final identification of the coming, specific, human Antichrist. That identification is fully developed in my final Power Point which would be of great benefit to you.

It is important to understand when the 1260 years were, to identify the little horn antichrist.

There is no 1260 years as per my explanation above. The position is all conjucture, nothing more.

In conclusion, I trust we can work together in exposing the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth, the Roman Papal System. May we unite against the Jesuit Papacy from which will come the final pope, risen from the dead, to be the Antichrist (I John 2:18), the Beast of Revelation 13 and 19:20 who will LITERALLY be cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.


Scofield's connections
http://www.historicist.com/articles/dts.htm

God Bless and Take Care,
James,
Missouri

Sincerely in the One Faith of the Lord Jesus Christ,
Brother Eric

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