I would imagine that the whole of the area around the Vatican, including Borgo Spirito Santo & Piazza del Gesu would have such missile defences. I'm not an expert in such technology but I would imagine that machinery needed would be of a size that would be hard to hide. Am I correct or not? If so, then I would also imagine that they should be photographable, as should any other military defence presence in the vicinity, i.e. tanks, as has been claimed elsewhere.
Who maintains this kind of military equipment if it exists? The Italian government? That would seem to put too much advantage their way post-Lateran Treaty & would seem questionable. Or perhaps NATO? They also providing the troops for UN "Peacekeeping" forces & NATO is currently headed by Roman Catholic Dutchman, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, NATO's 11th Secretary General, who took over this post in January 2004. NATO's HQ is in Brussels, Belgium.
The previous Supreme Allied Commander Europe (NATO's other top position) was James L. Jones (USMC 4-star General & now also Obama's US National Security Advisor. Jones was Jesuit-trained at Georgetown University's Foreign School of Service. In December 2006 he was succeeded by Bantz J. Craddock (US Army 4-star General). He oversees the NATO military forces' central command known as SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe), based in Casteau, near Mons, Belgium.
The Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe soince Oxtober 2007 has been (General Sir) John McColl, who was appointed Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath in the 2008 New Years Honours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaap_de_Hoop_Scheffer
http://www.nato.int/docu/update/2004/01-january/e0105a.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Allied_Commander_Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Jones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantz_J._Craddock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McColl
http://www.nato.int/shape/news/2007/09/070908a.htm
Above: NATO 2002 Summit in Prague.
Above: Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer meeting George W. Bush on March 20, 2006.
Above: SHAPE, Belgium - Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE)
Above: Found at a page on the official NATO website accompanied by the following text:
Who maintains this kind of military equipment if it exists? The Italian government? That would seem to put too much advantage their way post-Lateran Treaty & would seem questionable. Or perhaps NATO? They also providing the troops for UN "Peacekeeping" forces & NATO is currently headed by Roman Catholic Dutchman, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, NATO's 11th Secretary General, who took over this post in January 2004. NATO's HQ is in Brussels, Belgium.
The previous Supreme Allied Commander Europe (NATO's other top position) was James L. Jones (USMC 4-star General & now also Obama's US National Security Advisor. Jones was Jesuit-trained at Georgetown University's Foreign School of Service. In December 2006 he was succeeded by Bantz J. Craddock (US Army 4-star General). He oversees the NATO military forces' central command known as SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe), based in Casteau, near Mons, Belgium.
The Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe soince Oxtober 2007 has been (General Sir) John McColl, who was appointed Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath in the 2008 New Years Honours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaap_de_Hoop_Scheffer
http://www.nato.int/docu/update/2004/01-january/e0105a.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Allied_Commander_Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Jones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantz_J._Craddock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McColl
http://www.nato.int/shape/news/2007/09/070908a.htm
Above: NATO 2002 Summit in Prague.
Above: Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer meeting George W. Bush on March 20, 2006.
Above: SHAPE, Belgium - Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE)
Above: Found at a page on the official NATO website accompanied by the following text:
QUOTE |
The flag is the European Union flag charged with a logo outlining in white houses, a church steeple, a defence tower and a dome, thus reflecting the diversity of European cultural heritage. |
And what was the true nature of the visit by the previous Grand Master of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, the late Andrew Bertie, to NATO in February 2007?
http://www.nato.int/docu/update/2007/02-february/e0201a.html
"Visit to NATO by Andrew Bertie,
Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller
Andrew Bertie, Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller, visited NATO Headquarters on Thursday 1 February 2007 and met with the Secretary General, Mr. Jaap de Hoop Scheffer."
Above: "Centre and right: Andrew Bertie being greeted by NATO Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer"
Above: "Left to right: Andrew Bertie with NATO Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer"
Above: "Left to right: Andrew Bertie with NATO Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer"
Above: "Left to right: Andrew Bertie with NATO Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer"
Above: "Centre left to right: Bilateral meeting between Andrew Bertie NATO Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer"
Above: "Bilateral Meeting with NATO Secretary General Right: Andrew Bertie, Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller"
There is no other info about this at the NATO website:
http://isn-lucene-search.ethz.ch/result.php?q=Andrew+Bertie
Interesting to note the Masonic symbolism too in the photo below:
Above:
"Chairman of the Military Committee Changeover Ceremony 3 July 2002
Left to right: Admiral G. Venturoni handing the gavel over to General H. Kujat"
We know of the Supreme Council, American Military Scottish Rite Bodies, Orient of NATO Bases:
Above:
http://www.scottishrite.org/web/journal-fi...4/cisep-oct.htm
http://www.masonicforum.ro/en/nr19/france.html
"Unique gavel presentation to the Supreme Council for France"
QUOTE |
Sovereign Grand Commander Ronald A. Seale, 33°, with his wife, Saundra, and Sovereign Grand Commander Walter E. Webber, 33°, Northern Masonic Jurisdiction, with his wife, Leslie, were pleased to participate in the 47th Conference of Sovereign Grand Commanders of Europe and Associated Countries meeting in Paris, France, May 16-23, 2004. The delegates to the conference, most accompanied by their wives, from the Southern Jurisdiction were Ill. Bros. Seale, SGC; Curtis N. Lancaster, Lt. SGC; Robert L. Goldsmith, Grand Minister of State; Robert W. Woodward, GC, Deputy, Orient of American Military NATO Bases; and William G. Sizemore, GC, Grand Executive Director of the Supreme Council. |
Above:
http://www.scottishrite.org/web/journal-fi...ct03/nedkov.htm
Scottish Rite Journal, October 2003
"During his recent visit to Bulgaria, Deputy Robert W. Woodward, 33°, G.C. (left), conferred with Ill. Michael Mavronichis, 33°, District Grand Master of Cyprus."
QUOTE |
During the week of June 21-27, 2003, as Deputy Robert W. Woodward, 33°, G.C., visited their country, Bulgarian Freemasons showed the power of fraternal enthusiasm and Masonic building. On June 21, Bulgarian Brethren welcomed Ill. Woodward, Deputy, Scottish Rite Bodies, NATO Bases, as a Brother whose name is engraved with golden letters in the Masonic history of Bulgaria. ... On the following day, Sunday, June 22, the regular conference of the Supreme Council, 33°, in Bulgaria welcomed Ill. Woodward, elevated five deserving Bulgarian members of the Scottish Rite to the 33°, and announced the election of Sovereign Grand Commander C. Fred Kleinknecht, 33°, and Ill. Woodward, 33°, G.C., as honorary members of the Bulgarian Supreme Council. ... Later during the same day, the American College was established with all the required educational licenses from the USA. The American College is built with the sponsorship of the Grand Lodge of Bulgaria and the Supreme Council, 33°, in Bulgaria and will function under their auspices. Deputy Woodward, who became the College's first Chairman of the Board, placed a time capsule carrying a message of hope and inspiration to future generations. ... On June 25, at noon in Sofia, the capital of Bulgaria, Sovereign Grand Commander Petar Kalpaktchiev, 33°; Grand Master Roumen Raltchev, 33°; and Ill. Woodward, G.C., were received at the presidential palace by the Honorable Georgi Parvanov, the President of the Republic of Bulgaria. President Parvanov, who has met with Deputy Woodward three times in the last three years, stated his willingness to support the Scottish Rite and Freemasonry. Ill. Woodward, speaking for the Brethren of the Southern Jurisdiction, presented his own warm regards and expressed admiration of the President's efforts towards Bulgaria's acceptance in NATO. ... All Brethren wished for additional meetings in the near future and more efforts for the development of the Scottish Rite and Freemasonry around the world, for the strengthening of the democracy in Eastern Europe, and for the safeguarding of freedom. - Constantin Iancu, 33º, Sovereign Grand Commander, Supreme Council of AASR from Romania |
The Scottish Rite seems to play a crucial role within NATO:
http://www.masonicforum.ro/en/nr10/ci.html
QUOTE |
On 7 May 1993, the Supreme Council Mother of the World of the AASR in Washington, together with the Lodge of NATO Bases, came to Bucharest and initiated Romanian and East European Brethren. In October 1993, in Washington, at the plenum of the Supreme Council Mother of the World, and in the presence of the Grand Masonic Powers, some Romanian Brethren, together with Brethren from Portugal and Poland, were initiated in the 33rd and last degree. This act made possible the reconstitution and reconsecration of the Supreme Councils in Portugal, Poland and Romania. ... The Scottish Rite is the Masonic body whose role is to provide the link on the international level between the various national Masonries. It represents an upgrading of the York Rite from both a ritualistic and territorial perspective. Much more than that, the Scottish Rite represents an incorporation of rituals from different esoteric societies Rosicrucians, Templars etc. For this reason it is absolutely natural and necessary for any Mason to pass through the higher school of the A.A.S.R. ... As we are taught in the 32nd degree as Princes of the Royal Secret the Supreme Council of the 33rd and last degree of the A.A.S.R. ... will continue to fight for the Unity of Europe, so that, together with the other Brotherhoods American, Asiatic, African, to work for the Universal Brotherhood, for the restoration and installment of the Temple of Solomon. |
The New World Order goals & role of both the Scottish Rite & NATO is not open to dispute either:
http://www.masonicforum.ro/en/nr16/iancu.html
QUOTE |
More than 200 years ago, in May 30, 1786, Frederic the Great established the first Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite in the world. ... We have the honour to see among us the successor of the first Sovereign of the Scottish Rite, Ill. Br. C. Fred Kleinknecht (Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council Mother of the World), the Sovereign Grand Commander Robert Ralston, Sovereign Grand Commander Friedrich-Wilhelm Schmidt, Sovereign Grand Commander Corrado Ballaco Gabrieli, Sovereign Grand Commander Leopold Tröthann, Sovereign Grand Commander Peter Kozma, Sovereign Grand Commander Nogueira, our beloved Brother Robert Woodward, the chief of the NATO Bases Lodges. Today a wonderful thing has happened: the Sovereign Grand Commanders are present here together with the Grand Masters of the Grand Lodges for a common celebration. This proves that Masonry is only one, though we talk about Romania, Germany, Hungary, France or America. What happens today should stand for a new level of the World Freemasonry. As I’ve already said, there isn’t a European Masonry and an American one - the Masonry is only one! Whatever is against it is in fact outside Masonry. ... The fraternal love must work indeed and win. I think this is our message, especially that we are now on the verge of unifying - in the profane field of world union -, at the point of restoring and installing the new order of the Temple of Solomon. For this we all swore, this is our ambition ... the historical, cultural and spiritual rights to be part of the wonderful universal chain of fraternity, the universal chain in which we all are neighbours. Masonry should be what it was before, the promoter of this union on the world plane. We are convinced that Masonry, the Scottish Rite, represents the elite that leads and will lead the mankind towards harmony and peace and towards love, which is above all. I want to thank once again the high and distinguished guests, to thank you, Brethren, for everything you have done so far and please consider seriously the fact that from now on a new stage begins, a stage in which we have to dedicate ourselves to work and prove that we are indeed an elite and we deserve the sacred mission we were called at. - Constantin Iancu, 33º, Sovereign Grand Commander, Supreme Council of AASR from Romania |
And of course we have the connections between the Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite, Freemasonry, the Jesuits & the Vatican:
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2009/01/05...-italy-in-rome/
Above: NATO Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5268950.stm
'No swastikas' for Nato mittens
"It was thought the design might offend delegates unfamiliar with local folklore"
Which still leaves unanswered the question of which military body oversees any missile defences around the area of the Vatican.
Also: do the SMOM bases of Via Condotti & Aventine Hill have similar defences?
It would be superb if any intrepid Romans with a taste for discrete, intrepid photography are prepared to obtain & contribute any evidence here to substantiate the existence of these defences.
-Troy
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