Wednesday, September 10, 2008

More of Troy's words about the Jesuits






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TROY:

Did you listen to Craig's recent monologue recording?

"ANTISIONIST":

I sure did. Did you? Right at the three hour and nineteen minute and 25 second mark mark he again says Jew really refers to the 12th degree of the Elusian mystery religion and wasn't used until the 18th century. Let's look at another clip from Freedman.

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"ANTISIONIST":

It is an incontestable fact that the word "Jew" did not come into existence until the year 1775. Prior to 1775 the word "Jew" did not exist in any language. The word "Jew" was introduced into the English for the first time in the 18th century when Sheridan used it in his play "The Rivals", II,i, "She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew". Prior to this use of the word "Jew" in the English language by Sheridan in 1775 the word "Jew" had not become a word in the English language. Shakespeare never saw the word "Jew" as you will see. Shakespeare never used the word "Jew" in any of his works, the common general belief to the contrary notwithstanding. In his "Merchant of Venice", V.III.i.61, Shakespeare wrote as follows: "what is the reason? I am a Iewe, hath not a Iewe eyes ?"

So it seems he would agree with me and you that Yehudim goes back a long long long time but that only in the eighteenth century it was given a letter J. I guess he was hung up not on a word, but a particular LETTER.



Not the point of Craig's that I was referring to - which you well know, as you've split this to comment on my actual point later on, i.e. the methods & tactics of the Jesuits.

No matter. I'll deal with the above in the same manner as I did before.

The AV1611 has the word Jew or Iewe in its original spelling. This is the same word. An abbreviation of Yehudim. Freedman is being Jesuitical to suggest that Jew & Iewe are different words, etc. & thus gives his game away. We're talking about a primarily verbal culture only just becoming a textual/verbal culture with the advent of the printing press. This may have been invented in 1439, but standardisation & formalisation of many words developed over the next three centuries or so. Honestly, it's like watching paint dry even discussing it.

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You haven't clarified the phrase 'attacking Protestantism'



Protestantism is based around the AV1611 Bible & its use as the ultimate ideological defence against the Satanic Vatican. The Old Testament you can consider as being about Judaism & Jewishness. The New Testament you can consider as being about Jesus. The Bible connects the two. You seek to isolate the AV1611 into the times that it speaks of that occurred past tense & to thus to also negate the relevance of prophecy.

How do you do this? By implying that Jesus is Lucifer (which I refute as a pro-Latin Vulgate Romish implication as appears in the Jesuitical NIV Bible); by denying that Jews (or Iewes) are descended from the Jews (or Iewes) of Bible, by some roundabout argument that the latter were actually Judaeans (which are ancestors of the Jews) by refuting the etymology of the word - a weak stand regardless of any other circumstances - thus the whole meaning of your original posting of "Jesus was not a Jew" as the thread title derived from the name of the ProThink article that you posted at the start of the thread & seem to have subsequently prevaricated upon & minced words to the point where its impossible to tell what you think; & by refuting that Jesus was of the seed of David, despite me giving you two explications of the geneology of Luke (which work both together & separately) & your complete denial of one & dismissing out of hand the other.

This denial is the denial of Jesus Christ as the messiah & thus aligns itself with & seeks to bolster the Vatican's undermining of Protestant Christianity based upon the word of the Bible & not the doctrine of the Pope of Babylon Reprised. The Vatican knows the power of Christ & seeks to disguise itself as loving that which it hates most, such is the way of Satan.







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Do you know what they mean when they talk about the pope being the vicar of Christ? They say the pope is basically GOD IN THE FLESH. HE IS PUTTING HIMSELF IN PLACE OF JESUS.



You don't say? Now that is a surprise...







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TROY:

In several places, even right up to near the end Craig discusses the infiltrational & ideological tactics of the Jesuits as revealed in the Jim Arrabito film, in a disgusted manner. These are essentially the same tactics & methods that I have called you out on.

"ANTISIONIST":

And what methods would those be? It couldn't possibly be me correcting Prothink and Freedman ON THE FIRST PAGE and showing where they went wrong now could it? laugh.gif Something I have had to mention at least three times to you for some odd reason.



See the above.







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TROY:

I agree with Alberto Rivera that when it comes to Catholics, they can only truly escape Catholicism when they are truly born into the spirit of Christ.

"ANTISIONIST":

So are you saying that Thomas Paine and others who criticized the Catholic Church were really secret jesuits because they didn't convert to Protestantism and come to Christ? If so, that's your Protestant bias that has no basis in fact. Many people have escaped the Catholic Church and rejected it's teachings. Some do it through conversion to another religion. Some do it by way of atheism. You may not like atheists, but you can't deny the fact that they exist and hate the Roman Church for example.



Atheism & Catholicism are merely two branches of Satanism. Whichever is chosen is irrelevant, both are ultimately Satanic. Thus the Jesuit Adam Weishaupt's Bavarian Illuminati's championing of atheism. This doesn't make all atheists secret Jesuits, but they are unwittingly (& in some cases wittingly) acting out Jesuit designs.

Deism was the second branch of this attack on Christianity - this Illuminati attack presenting itself as an attack on Catholicism & the Papacy. Remember though that this was merely the Jesuits seeking revenge on the Papacy for banning them in 1773 & that both the Vatican & the Jesuits are Satanic (or Luciferian as they prefer).







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Catholicism is the most widespread religion in the world. Didn't you know that? Unfortnately, I was brought up in that religious environment. Thankfully, I saw it for the nonsense it was. I struggled a lot with trying to reconcile certian teachings with the bible. Then Thomas Paine's Deist manifesto THE AGE OF REASON set me free



The most widespread religion in the world? Actually that would be Islam at 1.5 Billion, where as Catholicism has 1.1 billion, as does non-Catholic Christianity. So no, your revelations are news to me & to the global religious demographics statisticians. You'd better let them know!

Catholicism is not an end in itself, that end is the goal of global worship of the Beast. Catholicism per se, as demonstrated in the French Revolution, is ultimately mere window dressing & is dispensible or transmutable in order to achieve the global system of universal worship of the Beast. Extending such metaphors, up till this point Catholicism has been merely the main hallway to the Inner Temple of the Beast. Another hallway serving a similar purpose was built in the 20th century from materials gathered over the preceding few centuries: so-called Marxist Communism in Russia & China.

There are many paths to the same destination.

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