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kyrenen (4 months ago) Show Hide
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this contained outright lies and lies by ommissions.
[1] french revolution. Discovery channel: freemasons had nothing to do with it
Fact: freemasons openly admit they did it, in their own journals.
[2] Discovery channel:wash DC symbolism has nothing to do with freemasons.
Fact: why didn't they tell us the obilisk is an ancient pagan symbol for Osiris' penis.
[3] the "G" in mason's symbol means goodness or god.
FACT: "G" means "gnosis", ancient, mystery term for knowledgeon and on...
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More disinformation. This is the reason why I stopped watching TV and started tuning out to the media. Aleister Crowley was considered one of the most evil men in his times. Yet he held the highest degree in Freemasonry. And that is just to name one of many Masons who were Satanists. Freemasonry is a Luciferian Religion. Stop being ignorant and wake up!!!!!
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Exactly... Typical Discovery Channel/National Geographic disinformation procedure... Present all the fantastic facts and present them over and over again and all the way at the end they ALWAYS alter or deny everything that was said before.
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Of Course discovery Channel are going to take this stance, propaganda. Mass media is a Joke and imo cannot be trusted to reveal the Truth- Who pulls the strings of these corporate giants ? There is an Elite Faction on our planet that dictate to us what they Deem we should know- its been happening from the beginning and will until the people take back the power and see what has been hidden.
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right, so you expect us to belive these blasphemy, or are you leaving it upto us to decide? there are no woman or itteracial freemason, unless of course its another attempt to cover up the so called secracy. years of hidden rituals were just broacasted with some terrible acting.. sorry i dont think anyone with a conscience would buy that!
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masquenada73 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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When the P2 scandal blew up in Italy Berlusconi was indeed in the secret books of the lodge together with bankers, politicians, secret services connected to the mafia who were behind most of Italys terrorists attacks blamed on left wing organizations. Thanks to those they changed the Italian legislation allowing the police to search and arrest on suspicion of terrorism. (sounds familiar???)
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P2 members were: 44 members of parliament, 3 ministers, 12 Carabinieri Generals, 5 Generals of the Guardia di Finanza (Revenue Guard Corps), 22 Army generals, magistrates, business man, bankers and ALL the leaders of the Italian secret services. Thats to say your average boys club. Just a bunch of lads who gather to play cards and smoke cigars. Isnt it?Good job discovery channel! Thanks for clarifying all our doubts.
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In a recent interview Licio Gelli, founder of the P2 lodge, stated that the Berlusconis government is the success of the dictatorial government he designed back in 1982. Where the president has total control of the media, finance and government.He even made a joke saying that he should claim copyrights for it.
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you have no idea how foolish masonry appears when they infest your workplace and in secret concert, conspire to place their guys up the ladder at the expense of the profane non-members who are better at the job. many companies have been ruined by freemasonry out of control - everyone in most good jobs are related - brother-in-law fever. let one in and your company's cooked - they'll all get in - and sit around collecting a paycheck while they cover for each other and goof off.
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this was a wonderfully informative show up until about the last episode, where the discovery channel does it's par for the course "go back to work, the world is boring, nobody is fooling you, pay your taxes, we need more cameras to watch you with" conclusion for all the legopeople who might have been on the cusp of DISCOVERY. Might as well go back to animal planet. Like they're gonna disclose anything of any weight on discovery...ha!
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More disinformation. This is the reason why I stopped watching TV and started tuning out to the media. Aleister Crowley was considered one of the most evil men in his times. Yet he held the highest degree in Freemasonry. And that is just to name one of many Masons who were Satanists. Freemasonry is a Luciferian Religion. Stop being ignorant and wake up!!!!!
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Exactly... Typical Discovery Channel/National Geographic disinformation procedure... Present all the fantastic facts and present them over and over again and all the way at the end they ALWAYS alter or deny everything that was said before.
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Of Course discovery Channel are going to take this stance, propaganda. Mass media is a Joke and imo cannot be trusted to reveal the Truth- Who pulls the strings of these corporate giants ? There is an Elite Faction on our planet that dictate to us what they Deem we should know- its been happening from the beginning and will until the people take back the power and see what has been hidden.
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1. french revolution. Discovery channel: freemasons had nothing to do with it
Fact: freemasons openly admit they did it, in their own journals.
Would you like to site sources such as these journals because I would like to see them. FYI One of the most famous Free-Masons Lafayette fought on the side of the crown. It is thought that Masons had some influence on the revolution because it is a fraternity which hold democracy dearly important to it.
2.Discovery channel:wash DC symbolism has nothing to do with freemasons.
Fact: why didn't they tell us the obilisk is an ancient pagan symbol for Osiris' penis.
American Masonry has been very Christianized. Free-Masonry itself is religion neutral. Freedom of religion is very important as is freedom of choice. And I would say DC symbolism is somewhat Masonic as the architect and planner were Masons.
3. the "G" in mason's symbol means goodness or god.
FACT: "G" means "gnosis", ancient, mystery term for knowledgeon and on...
The G stand for one thing and it is Geometrico (Geometry). The sacred science.
your so full of shit...also your Dogma scares me to death. Im sure a few hundred years ago you would have supported burning people at the stake as well. on that note please go fuck your self. thanks & have a nice day!
Due East,
I knew you would respond in that fashion. You pro-Masons are getting old.
By Timothy
Here's my Response to you:
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replies to this nonsense.
1. french revolution. Discovery channel: freemasons had nothing to do with it
Fact: freemasons openly admit they did it, in their own journals.
Would you like to site sources such as these journals because I would like to see them. FYI One of the most famous Free-Masons Lafayette fought on the side of the crown. It is thought that Masons had some influence on the revolution because it is a fraternity which hold democracy dearly important to it.
Response: First, this isn't nonesense. The words that you disagree with are from a man on Youtube who legitimately exposed the Discovery Channel's lies on Freemasonry. Now, There are plenty of sources proving the Masonic role in the Frence Revolution. Freemasonry didn't rule all of the Revolution, but leaders members of the Revolution were indeed Freemasons. That isn't a lie.
In the chamber of Deputies during the session on July 1, 1904 the Marquis de Rosanbo stated:
• "Freemasonry has worked in a hidden but constant manner to prepare the revolution...
We are then in complete agreement on the point that freemasonry was the only author
of the revolution, and the applause which I receive from the Left, and to which I am
little accustomed, proves, gentlemen, that you acknowledge with me that it was
masonry which made the French revolution."
• Mr. Jumel: "We do more than acknowledge it, we proclaim it."
• [Source: Mgsr. Henri Delassus, La Conjuration anti-chrétienne, vol. 1, 1910, p. 146;
quoted in de Poncins, op. cit.,p.30].
Here‘s another source on the French Revolution & Masonry connection: “Masonry
early comprehended this Truth, and recognized its own enlarged duties. Its symbols
then came to have a wider meaning; but it also assumed the mask of Stone-masonry,
and borrowed its working-tools, and so was supplied with new and apt symbols. It
aided in bringing about the French Revolution, disappeared with the Girondists, was
born again with the restoration of order, and sustained Napoleon, because, though
Emperor, he acknowledged the right of the people to select its rulers, and was at the
head of a nation refusing to receive back its old kings. He pleaded, with sabre,
musket, and cannon, the great cause of the People against Royalty, the right of the
French people even to make a Corsican General their Emperor, if it pleased them…”
(Albert Pike, “Morals and Dogma,” pg. 32-33). Freemasons wanted their utopian system under the guise of "democracy." Democracy is just as bad as an authoriatarian monarchy. The reason is that a Democracy deals with mob rule suppressing the liberties and rights of the minority in a population.
2.Discovery channel:wash DC symbolism has nothing to do with freemasons.
Fact: why didn't they tell us the obilisk is an ancient pagan symbol for Osiris' penis.
American Masonry has been very Christianized. Free-Masonry itself is religion neutral. Freedom of religion is very important as is freedom of choice. And I would say DC symbolism is somewhat Masonic as the architect and planner were Masons.
Response: American Masonry is not Christianized. It has nothing to do with Christianity as Freemasons admit to this. Freemason J. D. Buck wrote: "It is far more important that men should become Christs than that they should believe that Jesus was Christ." (Mystic Masonry, 1913, p.138). Freemasonry accept death oaths and believe in the Kabbalah (along with accepting tenets of Ecumenicalism). These and other reasons prove that Freemasonry isn't apart of Christianity at all. It's an oxymoron for you to proclaim that American Masonry is CHristianized then say that Freemasonry is religion netural. Freedom of religion is fine with me. The freedom of choice is fine as long as it doesn't involve hurting people like abortion. Abortion is murder and it is not representative of the freedom of choice at all. D.C. is very Masonry since many architects of various buildings there were Freemasons.
3. the "G" in mason's symbol means goodness or god.
FACT: "G" means "gnosis", ancient, mystery term for knowledgeon and on...
The G stand for one thing and it is Geometrico (Geometry). The sacred science.
Response: The G in Masonry have many meanings according to Freemasons. I trust the Masons' interpretation of G better than you. G means to the Masons as menaing God, Generation, etc. Freemason W L Wilmhurst said that G means:
"...The "G" therefore denotes the Universal Spirit of God, permeating and unifying all things . It is a substitute for the Hebrew letter Yod, the tenth letter of the Hebrew alphabet, and out of which all the other letters of that alphabet are constructed in correspondence with the truth that all created things are modifications of the one primal Spirit . In the Instruction-lecture of a Degree outside our present constitutions, the "G" is explained as having a three-fold reference ; (i) the Glory of God, or glory in the centre ; (2) Grandeur, or the greatness of perfection to which man may become raised by initiation into union .with God at his centre ; (3) Gom-El, a Hebrew word of praise for the Divine power and goodness in designing that perfection and that union between the Creator and the creature. There is also a Hebrew tradition that Gom-El was the word uttered by Adam on first beholding the beauty of Eve and perceiving the ultimate destiny of humanity..." (MASONIC INITIATION by W.L. Wilmshurst Chapter II)
Symbolic Teaching: Or, Masonry and Its Message is a book written by Masonic scholar Thomas Milton Stewart. He admits that:
"...On page 367: 'While it [the letter G] is the initial of Geometry, of God, and of the Great Architect of the Universe, the sacred and mystic name of the Masonic deity, it [the letter G] symbolizes the generative principle, and the initial of the work of emanation or generation.
The Hebrew Yod ['} according to some high Masonic authorities, means the same as the letter G....When it occurs in Masonic emblems, it denotes the letter G, the masculine generative or fedundating principle..." (pg. 223)
So, what we have here is that the letter G has many meanings from God to the generative principle. This is admitted by Freemasons themselves. So, you certainly got me confused with a ignorant person that doesn't know too much about Masonry since I have done my homework for years. I've debated and refuted Masons for a long time. So, people like you inspire me even more to make stiring combacks on this issue. Frankily, this isn't nonesense. This is reality.
By Timothy
Here is Freemason Eliphas Levi's view on the Masonic G in Masonry:
"G which Freemasons place in the center of the Burning Star signifies Gnosis and Generation, the two sacred words of the ancient Kabbalah. It also signifies Grand Architect, for the Pentagram, from whatever side it may be looked at, always represents an 'A'. By placing it in such a manner that two of its points are above and only one below, we may see the horns, ears, and beard of the hieratic god of Mendes (Baphomet) when it becomes the sign of infernal evocations." (Masonic author, Eliphas Levi, quoted by Masonic author, Arthur Edward Waite, "The Mysteries of Magic: A Digest of the Writings of Eliphas Levi", 1909, p.205).
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