WHO BLAME WOMEN FOR ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH...
WE DON'T ALL SEE IT THAT WAY...
MANY OF US KNOW THAT BOTH BM AND BW OFTEN HAVE THINGS TO WORK ON....AND THOSE OF US THAT ARE SERIOUS,INTELLIGENT AND SINCERE ABOUT PURSUING A REALISTIC AND SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR FIRST....*IF A PERSON IS UNABLE TO DO THIS...THEN THEY SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COST...BUT IT GOES BOTH WAYS...WITH BM AND BW!
*I HOLD MY WIFE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT SHE SAYS AND FOR WHAT SHE DOES IN OUR RELATIONSHIP...AND SHE DOES THE SAME THING WITH ME...BUT FIRST I CHECK MYSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT MY ASS DOESN'T STINK...WHICH IT DOES SOMETIMES...AND I HAVE TO CORRECT IT...SAME GOES FOR HER....
**NOW WHICH ONE OF THE TWO LOVELY YOUNG LADIES IN THE PHOTO ARE YOU?
-The Moor
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I remember when I told someone exactly what you just said. They told me that the women that you just described (not appreciating intelligence and exceptional character, but prefer thugs and material things) are thug girls. Thug girls are really just as ignorant and foolish as the guys, but good men like us don't notice that b/c we respect ourselves and everyone else. When a thug girl is with a thug man, they seem to be the one that needs rescuing, but once they get with a good man they ebcome the antagonist and hurt and abuse him. As good men, we can't forget the good women, those that value themselves and advocate intelligence and respect for the other too. Lordy just seems hurt, she's learning the same lesson we are. It sucks how good men and women are abused by thugs and thug girls. These days you even find thugs in college lol. Love prevails over all, and with a patient mind and heart, good people will soon find good people. I'm waiting for mine, and she'll see me soon, if she has the same mindset I do about finding a good man. I agree with you when you say we can't be soft on women for saying hurtful things about us. I ain't gone be no push over lol.
Good points, brother. American materialism. Yea, it's not only hurting the black community, but I hear my white and Asian friends talk about the damage it is doing to this country overall. I mean, these days we got black, white, Asian, and Hispanic American teens demanding suped up cars by their 16th birthday. Ever seen "My Super Sweet 16" on MTV? Good representation of American youth. Why? B/c over the years, we allowed investment bankers to dictate our values and desires, which was the begining of the end for us. When we take our country back as everyday people, old school values of intellect and family will return as well. I miss these days, minus the overt racism ofcourse lol.
Actually these days, b/c of colonial influences, they are black, white, Hispanic, and even Asian. I'm Afro Choctaw myself, and I have a good friend who is Scot-Cherokee. As long as you are on the roster, and can prove your ancestry, you are welcomed into the nations. Some do claim NA ancestry, but are just lying lol.
-Daz
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hendon700
1 year ago 2 
It is the Matrix, (NWO) and it is real, the blackmen are being picked off by matrix. It targets all your friends, family and aquaintances.
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slickkapone
4 months ago
BM are starting to wake up!!! I do TONS of volunteer work, my friends do to!! We clean up the neighborhoods by picking up the trash (doesn't cost a thing). We mentor the little kids every chance we get, my friend has even started his own little business. The truth is coming to light, we're trying to get rid of the c__s out here and the ignorant dudes messing it up for the rest of us.
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Nobody is playing gangster here....been there done that years ago,
Listen here, I HAVE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT GANGS THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW.
I grew up in BIRMINGHAM, HANDSWORTH which was originally an all black ghetto, google handsworth riots or burger bar boys or johnson crew birmingham, then you will understand a little about my former mentality and background, I have to stop there.
I have never needed to play a tough guy, being born and raised in one of the toughest neighbourhoods in England gaves me that personna naturaly, but I lifted myself up and changed my life, now I help others who grew up like me or are still in that lifestyle.
So do not try to match me for mental strength MY SUBURBIAN SISTER, you have been spoon fed compared to me, I am coming from a lot lower down than you are and had to deal with a hell of a lot more than you did, growing up whithin gangs in the hood, so I have picked up more character and mind strenghening experiences than you have on the way up to reach where I am now, a good neighbourhood, studying for a masters degree at a good university,(comprehend).
What I have seen with my own eyes or done in my younger days you could not stomach, not with your feeble suburbian mindset.
I have no interest in Impressing you whatsoever (already have a strong black women by my side of 9yrs and two daughters thanks) and if you have seen my post you will notice I am not here to make friends, but wake-up the lazy white worshipping black man who will fight tooth and nail to protect the white system that has been proven time and time again to work against people of colour but won't even fart on his own people.
If you are down with black nationalism and black business improvement then we are on the same side.
But I have noticed whenever I come onto a site that is supposed to be about blacks standing on their own two feet, I get more fight from black people stating we cannot do it, when we did it many times before in the past, even here in England we have Areas in London that are controlled totally by Africans.
What is wrong with some of you American blacks, when did you blacks get so weak minded and feeble, the system has turned your race upside down for 500 years some of you are still fighting for the system and all most of you want is a job and a car!!!
As for pseudo knowledge, that is all you will get, as I'm not wasting my time posting real detailed knowledge concerning systemaical corruption and institutionalised racism, also governmental corruption and cover-ups concerning black and so on as when I have done in the past the post is deleted by the moderators.
This forum is really a joke and must not be taken too seriously.
-The Revolutionist (from UK referring to a forum in Topix.com)
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You are right, but she keeps saying that she supports black business, if she supports black business, why then shy away from Black nationalism which is the natural step upwards?
All throughout history we have had this problem with black people fighting against progress, they did the same to all of our leaders in the past like Marcus Garvey who suggested that we take control of our lives and stand on our own two feet, LIKE MEN AND WOMEN NOT CHILDREN, then, right on time, along comes UNCLE TOM to destroy any form of progress we could make or even kill the leader to silence them.
If you are not into black nationalism why bother be here commenting and disrupting progressive talks that could lead to a solution, who knows.
Why not go and join a racist thread entitled "blacks are usless" or "blacks cannot govern themselves" or blacks cannot manufacture anything.
I for one am filled with pride when I see what blacks had achieved when we were supporting our own, we were phenomenal and whites saw this, that is why those thriving black communities don't exist today, it was very obvious that we would easily excel into greatness as the evidence of Black wall street, and black power movement show this.
What we need to start doing is ignore certain types of black people who oviously cannot see past their own pockets, and also the ones who cannot realise that we are all looked upon as a race of failures whether we have money individualy or not and the reason for that is TOTALLY DEPENDANT ON OTHER RACES OF PEOPLE FOR OUR EXISTENCE!
I find this highly embarrasing which eats away at my self pride, why should I be a servant to ever other kind of man for the rest of my life, didn't slavery end for our people in 1865 or not?
No it hasn't! However i am a rebelious slave who has a problem with these house slaves and I say kick them aside and lets get on with it, we will have to leave some blacks behind.
If the NOI or the Black panthers bought a big plot of land and started developing it as a black town, I would be there with my family to give my utmost support.
Peace...
-The Revolutionist
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I said the exact same thing some pages back, only to have someone (supposedly black) jump down my throat.
Your post about going the extra few miles to support black businesses reminded me of my childhood. Due to my father's job, we had to live in the suburbs, on the outskirts of London, where at the time, there were not many black people, the few black families around back then always used to stick together. No matter where you were from. In fact, if you saw another black face in the vicinity, you were instantly friends! However, there were no black businesses in the area. But, after school, and on the weekends, a few of us would get together, go to Brixton, Peckham, and other black areas in London to shop. My mother made a lot of clothes, so she'd buy material from mainly the Africans, we'd buy paintings and compilation cassettes (going back a while!) from the Rastafarian's on the market, meat from West Indian butchers, hair products from African or Caribbean shops. I actually work in predominantly black and Asian community at the moment, so I tend to support many of the local businesses in my lunch hour, especially now that a Nigerian woman has now opened a boutique nearby!
-TruthbknownLDN
AmaryllisTV
AmaryllisTV
Listen here, I HAVE FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT GANGS THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW.
I grew up in BIRMINGHAM, HANDSWORTH which was originally an all black ghetto, google handsworth riots or burger bar boys or johnson crew birmingham, then you will understand a little about my former mentality and background, I have to stop there.
I have never needed to play a tough guy, being born and raised in one of the toughest neighbourhoods in England gaves me that personna naturaly, but I lifted myself up and changed my life, now I help others who grew up like me or are still in that lifestyle.
So do not try to match me for mental strength MY SUBURBIAN SISTER, you have been spoon fed compared to me, I am coming from a lot lower down than you are and had to deal with a hell of a lot more than you did, growing up whithin gangs in the hood, so I have picked up more character and mind strenghening experiences than you have on the way up to reach where I am now, a good neighbourhood, studying for a masters degree at a good university,(comprehend).
What I have seen with my own eyes or done in my younger days you could not stomach, not with your feeble suburbian mindset.
I have no interest in Impressing you whatsoever (already have a strong black women by my side of 9yrs and two daughters thanks) and if you have seen my post you will notice I am not here to make friends, but wake-up the lazy white worshipping black man who will fight tooth and nail to protect the white system that has been proven time and time again to work against people of colour but won't even fart on his own people.
If you are down with black nationalism and black business improvement then we are on the same side.
But I have noticed whenever I come onto a site that is supposed to be about blacks standing on their own two feet, I get more fight from black people stating we cannot do it, when we did it many times before in the past, even here in England we have Areas in London that are controlled totally by Africans.
What is wrong with some of you American blacks, when did you blacks get so weak minded and feeble, the system has turned your race upside down for 500 years some of you are still fighting for the system and all most of you want is a job and a car!!!
As for pseudo knowledge, that is all you will get, as I'm not wasting my time posting real detailed knowledge concerning systemaical corruption and institutionalised racism, also governmental corruption and cover-ups concerning black and so on as when I have done in the past the post is deleted by the moderators.
This forum is really a joke and must not be taken too seriously.
-The Revolutionist (from UK referring to a forum in Topix.com)
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You are right, but she keeps saying that she supports black business, if she supports black business, why then shy away from Black nationalism which is the natural step upwards?
All throughout history we have had this problem with black people fighting against progress, they did the same to all of our leaders in the past like Marcus Garvey who suggested that we take control of our lives and stand on our own two feet, LIKE MEN AND WOMEN NOT CHILDREN, then, right on time, along comes UNCLE TOM to destroy any form of progress we could make or even kill the leader to silence them.
If you are not into black nationalism why bother be here commenting and disrupting progressive talks that could lead to a solution, who knows.
Why not go and join a racist thread entitled "blacks are usless" or "blacks cannot govern themselves" or blacks cannot manufacture anything.
I for one am filled with pride when I see what blacks had achieved when we were supporting our own, we were phenomenal and whites saw this, that is why those thriving black communities don't exist today, it was very obvious that we would easily excel into greatness as the evidence of Black wall street, and black power movement show this.
What we need to start doing is ignore certain types of black people who oviously cannot see past their own pockets, and also the ones who cannot realise that we are all looked upon as a race of failures whether we have money individualy or not and the reason for that is TOTALLY DEPENDANT ON OTHER RACES OF PEOPLE FOR OUR EXISTENCE!
I find this highly embarrasing which eats away at my self pride, why should I be a servant to ever other kind of man for the rest of my life, didn't slavery end for our people in 1865 or not?
No it hasn't! However i am a rebelious slave who has a problem with these house slaves and I say kick them aside and lets get on with it, we will have to leave some blacks behind.
If the NOI or the Black panthers bought a big plot of land and started developing it as a black town, I would be there with my family to give my utmost support.
Peace...
-The Revolutionist
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I said the exact same thing some pages back, only to have someone (supposedly black) jump down my throat.
Your post about going the extra few miles to support black businesses reminded me of my childhood. Due to my father's job, we had to live in the suburbs, on the outskirts of London, where at the time, there were not many black people, the few black families around back then always used to stick together. No matter where you were from. In fact, if you saw another black face in the vicinity, you were instantly friends! However, there were no black businesses in the area. But, after school, and on the weekends, a few of us would get together, go to Brixton, Peckham, and other black areas in London to shop. My mother made a lot of clothes, so she'd buy material from mainly the Africans, we'd buy paintings and compilation cassettes (going back a while!) from the Rastafarian's on the market, meat from West Indian butchers, hair products from African or Caribbean shops. I actually work in predominantly black and Asian community at the moment, so I tend to support many of the local businesses in my lunch hour, especially now that a Nigerian woman has now opened a boutique nearby!
-TruthbknownLDN
AmaryllisTV
1 year ago 9
Exactly thugs are social misfits this is what my parents taught me. Pop culture has glamourized the thug. I'm more attracted to the guy in the book store because he's more appealing. Not only because he's intelligent but mysterious. Don't be fooled there are plenty of well adjusted and MATURE BW who appreciate and love respectable BM. Like attracts like.
AmaryllisTV
1 year ago
I consider myself mature, I'm neither old, obese nor am I a mother...the exact opposite. I meant it as a state of mind...self respecting, self assured, self aware, discerning, discriminating and selective w/ the respect to the partner one chooses.
ladyEulaelie
I THINK THAT KHALISA IS A LOVELY LADY...WHO MAKES SOME VERY GOOD POINTS..OVERALL...I HAVE READ SEVERAL OF HER COMMENTS...BUT I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS...
NO SHE DOESN'T HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE SUCH BLANKET STATEMENTS ABOUT AMERICAN BLACK MEN...BECAUSE....FIRST OF ALL SHE IS NOT EVEN AA...NEXT OF ALL...ALL SHE IS DOING IS PLAYING INTO THE WHOLE "AFRICAN MEN,BAHAMIAN MEN,JAMACIAN MEN,WHITE MEN,HISPANIC MEN,ITALIAN MEN...ARE BETTER MINDSET"...OH MY BAD YOU LOVE THAT GAME DON'T YOU?....
BUT NO SHE IS ONCE AGAIN AN OUTSIDER MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT A GRUP OF MEN THAT SHE IS NEITHER INVOLVED WITH NOR IS QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON....WHICH IS NONSENSE....I HAVE DATED A FEW NATIVE AFRICAN WOMEN (AND I STILL CAN'T SPEAK ON ALL OF THEM)..AND HAVE KNOWN EVEN MORE MEN...AND NO THEY DO NOT ALL HAVE IT TOGETHER...THIS IS YET ANOTHER STUPID GENERALIZATION...
I KNOW NATIVE AFRICAN MEN THAT ARE TRIFLING AS HELL...HAVE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ALL OVER THE PLACE AND WHO HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR THEIR DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES...*NOT TO MENTION THAT MANY NATIVE AFRICAN MEN ARE VERY CONTROLLING,VERY ABUSIVE AND SEXIST AS HELL....*MOST AA WOMEN KNOW THIS..AND STAY AWAY FROM THEIR ASSES...MY WIFE HAS EVEN HAD EXPERIENCES WITH THEM PRIOR TO MARRIAGE...
YET THIS WOMAN HAS HAS EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE BIG ASS GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT AA MEN...PLAYING INTO THE WHOLE DIVIDE AND CONQUER MENTALITY!
YEAH..OKAY!..MORE BF NONSENSE!
-The Moor
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I don't applaud her and here's why. Why should a woman who is a middle school teacher expect a man to pay $300 for a meal. This is totally ridilicous. When a woman seeks a mate yes she should find someone who can provide but providing don't mean being ridilicous and this is nothing more than being flat out materilistic and not all women of other races and culture find rich men when they marry.
A white couple friend once told us that upon giving birth to her son she quit her job because she wanted to be a stay at home mom. Well before becommning pregnant her husband and she would live more lavish than before having her son. She said after the birth of her child, they really had to cut back because her husband was paying all the bills and they weren't able to live as before. Flash forward years later, the child is in high school, she has returned to work and they can live good again without the daycare, etc.
I'm not suggesting bw with a degree marry a person who has no desire than to work at a fast food establishment but if a man has a decent career as in this case of Moore situation, was an engineer, who was this woman who is a middle school teacher to think she deserves someone who will spend $300 on a first date meal.
What blacks don't realize is often especially with white and sometimes many other cultures is money often marries money. Look at Chelsa Clinton, I think I read where her husband father was some well known or wealthy man. The goal of finding a husband should be to find a person who share similar goals as you and together the two of you can build together and leave a legency for your children. Even in Hollywood, most rich couples marry other rich couples, especially whites, again money marry money. This is why you will see a non rich ww girl marrying a bm or a non known wm marrying a rich bw.
One more thing, I remember CNN show called "black in America" where they featured the elite blacks which we really don't hear much about them. Anyway these socialites hold events where their wealthy daughter and sons can meet other wealthy daughter and sons. Rich people didn't become rich by being stupid. This is why I believe a one should find a man with a good career, not saying he should make ridilicous amount of money but if he has a good job or career and is willing to provide that what is important. If you have children and have to sacrifice then sacrifice!!!!!
-menessa
Kingsland, GA
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Honey game know game and as a woman we can see right through her. This is why bw are often called stronger minded than bm because they sit here and agree with her without seeing her game. Then men such as Anti-Chaos asked me why didn't I defend bm but rather wm. Not once to her did I protect wm; as a matter of fact I acknowledged wm were at fault BUT I refuse to let this ww get away by claiming ww were only at fault due to ww and then she goes on to say ww had to create the feniminst movement because wm mistreated them so badly. WW are often more evil than if not just as much evil as wm. They smile in bm face while belittling and being mean to bw. WE have said this over and over but some of these men are so wrapped up in ww butt or they are so happy to hear about a ww degrading a wm that they refuse to see whats going on. This is why many bw are turning a deaf ear to bm accussations against wm due to their failure to hold bw accountable. One bm by the name of King accused Camille of being a bw simply because he just refused to believe your highness a ww could write this. Lol
-menessa
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caramel delight wrote:
um...bw haven't thrown themselves at wm, don't think wm are gods, and most of us don't want them...
i always wonder, how many black women have you men personally met that talk trash about black men and uplift white men?
and women too, how many black men have you met that talk trash about black women?
because i have never met either. the black men and women i know have only trashed talked their no good exes or any no good person they know, not the whole group.
*COSIGNS...THANK YOU!...
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT I LIVE IN A BURB THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO DETROIT..THE BLACKEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY....AND ALL THAT I SEE ARE BM WITH BW...AND YES I HEAR BM AND BW COMPLAINING ABOUT EACH OTHER...AND IN MY PREDOMINANTLY WHITE COMMUNITY I HEAR WHITES COMPLAINING ABOUT EACH OTHER!...JUST THE SAME...
BUT I NEVER HEAR BW SAYING STUFF LIKE BLACK MEN ARE DIRT AND I ONLY WANT A WM...OR BW ARE ALL USELESS I WANT TO DATE WM....
MIND YOU MY FAMILY AND I DO MANY THINGS IN DETROIT...BECAUSE WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE AWARE OF BOTH THE GOOD AND THE BAD IN THEIR PEOPLE AND TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THEM...AND TO BE AWARE OF THE ISSUES THAT OTHERS HAVE AS WELL...AND TO KNOW THAT NO BP ARE NOT PERFECT....NOR ARE OTHER RACES....WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ISSUES....AND THIS INCLUDES BOTH BM AND BW....
BUT AS FAR AS ALL OF THIS BW HATING BM OR ALL BM HATING BW....MY REALITY IS SO DIFFERENT AND SO IS THAT OF MY WIFE...SO THAT WHEN WE READ-HEAR ALL OF THIS CRAZY STUFF WE JUST LAUGH!
99% OF THE BLACK PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW ARE WITH EACH OTHER...EVEN IN THE SUBURBS....NOW MIND YOU THERE ARE SOME IR COUPLES HERE AND THERE OF COURSE...BUT THAT'S NOT THE NORM AT ALL.
-The Moor
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menessa wrote:
What does she do for a living? I mean I want lie as some bw are unrealistic. I had a coworker once when I was in college who introduced her boyfriend at the time as being the SGA(student govertnment association) president of a large mostly white college. He was an engineer majored and had co-op at places such as Proctor&Gamble and was already offered a job with a great salary. She was only interested in him for money with her Fashion Merchandising degree. I'm not downing her major but come on, its not like she had a hard major.
Women like this makes it hard for decent bw who aren't like this and want a good man. THese men see women like this and will reject the next bw. Let me ask you a question, how do she look. Is she a older Beyonce type bw? I ask this because oftentimes bm/bw will get hard or get turned down by these type bm/bw and swear all of the rest are like this. Noone wants an unattractive female but their has to be more than beauty.
HEY MENESSA,
THE WOMAN IN QUESTION IS VERY NICE LOOKING,IF THAT IS YOUR TYPE....SHE'S DARK SKIN VERY PRETTY WITH A NICE FIGURE...SO SHE IS NICE LOOKING...BUT SO WHAT....AS YOU STATED....THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO A WOMAN THAN HER BEAUTY...WHERE IS THE COMMON SENSE...MEN LIKE THIS DATE NICE LOOKING WOMEN ALL OF THE TIME...SO WHAT!
*I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD PEOPLE THAT EVEN THOUGH MY WIFE IS VERY NICE LOOKING...IT WASN'T HER LOOKS THAT CLOSED THE DEAL FOR ME...HELL AS SHE HERSELF STATED..."YOU KNOW ALL THE PRETTY GIRLS DON'T YOU"....I TURNED DOWN GOING OUT WITH NICE LOOKING GIRLS TO GO OUT WITH HER...IT WAS HER HEART...SHE HAS A HEART OF GOLD...THAT IS SO GENUINE!....
THIS SECOND COUSIN OF MY WIFE'S IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER...SO IT'S NOT LIKE SHE MAKES A FORTUNE...AND THIS GUY MAKES A PRETTY GOOD LIVING...HAS A HOME IN A PRETTY NICE COMMUNITY....BUT HE'S DATING ANOTHER BW NOW...ANOTHER FRIEND OF A FRIEND FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD....AND MY WIFE'S SECOND COUSIN WHO IS TOO GOOD TO GO TO PANERA JUST TO TALK...
IS LIVING AT HOME WITH HER MOTHER...WHO HAS NO MAN...AND IS NOT DATING ANYONE....AND ACCORDING TO MY WIFE SHE HAS BEEN ASKING ABOUT THIS MAN...BUT HE'S GONE ON ABOUT HIS BUSINESS...
WHO KNOWS....MAYBE SHE REALLY WANTS A NONBM....MY WIFE AND HER FIRST COUSIN JUST CAME OUT AND ASKED HER IF SHE WAS A.GAY, OR B.WANTED A NONBM....AND SHE TOLD THEM HELL NO TO BOTH....BUT ONCE AGAIN WHO KNOWS!
*AND YES I WOULD TELL ANYONE THAT JUST AS THERE ARE BAD BM THAT MESS IT UP F0R US ALL...THERE ARE BW WHO TURN SOME MEN OFF TO ALL BW.
-The Moor
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The reason why Black women and in particular AMERICAN BLACK WOMEN are under attack today is because we had begun taking back our image and reclaiming our pride and position from world opinion and it was noticed. You see as long as we played into the hands of the manipulators that understood our strengths better than we did everything was a-okay. No longer. Michelle shook us up and reminded us that we can achieve. That we had been achieving even in our doubt and depression; we were just being meek about it. No longer. We are strong and we have been reminded and those that would destroy us are out in force and failing.
-WowTheBoogieDown
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Very true..This breed of bm will now collaborate with ww/wm to talk badly of us, and it's shameful to know that some bw are turning into some serious Aunt Jemimas, who will turn on their own people in a heartbeat...
-Dinie
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COSIGNS...THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH...
I SEE IT EVERY DAY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN...ON THE FACES OF WHITE MEN WHO HATE TO SEE ME COMING WITH MY BLACK WIFE...THESE MEN HAVE THIS WHOLE ATTITUDE THAT SHE IS TOO NICE LOOKING AND TOO TOGETHER TO BE WITH A BM/THAT THEY KNOW IS A LOSER...NEVER MIND THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ME/THAT WE HAVE NEVER MET...
MY WIFE HAD ONE BOSS WHO CLEARLY HATED FOR HER TO SAY ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT HER HUSBAND...THIS GUY GOT TO THE POINT WHERE HE WOULD TAKE POTSHOTS AT ME FROM THE SIDE....SHE STATED THAT "MY HUSBAND IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT HISTORY....THIS GUY RESPONDED WITH...WHAT LIKE ENTERTAINMENT OR POP CULTURE HISTORY"...THIS SAME GUY TOLD HER EARLY ON THAT "SHE WAS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR"....SHE HAD TO CHECK HIS ASS...BECAUSE HE WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES....THEN WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT...HIS WIFE DIVORCED HIM...
SO YES THEY DO HATE TO SEE US BM AND BW TOGETHER LIVING TOGETHER AND LOVING EACH OTHER AND TAKING GOOD CARE OF EACH OTHER...NOT TO MENTION US DOING WELL...THEY HATE TO SEE BW WITH BM....
"ESPECIALLY IF SHE IS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE WITH A WM" WHO ARE ALWAYS IN HER FACE...IT'S SICK....THESES GUYS GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BE NICE TO HER....TO SHOW HER THAT WM ARE AS SOME SILLY ASS BW ON TOPIX PUT IT..."WHITE MEN ARE NICE"...LOL!...THEY ONLY WANT TO SCORE POINTS WITH BW AGAINST BM...JUST LIKE THEY DID TO ASIAN MEN/EAST INDIAN MEN AND SO ON...MANY OF THESE GUYS ARE INSECURE,TERRIFIED COWARDS...WHO NEED TO BE VIEWED AS WHITE KNIGHTS...BY ALL WOMEN....THUS THEIR WHOLE PRESENCE HERE
AS IF ANY MAN IS NOT EVER NICE TO A NICE LOOKING WOMAN....DUH?
*YES THERE ARE SOME GOOD WHITE MEN...NO DOUBT...BUT JUST BEING A WHITE MAN...WHO TALKS SOFLY,ACTS NICE AND WHO PRETENDS TO NOT HATE BLACK PEOPLE BEING TOGETHER IS A LIE!...I SEE IT EVERY DAY!
-The Moor
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Moore,
I agree with what you're saying as it has happened to my husband. One day my husband met me for lunch as we were sitting out on a picnic bench when this wm walked passed up and literally rolled his eyes at my husband after looking directly at me and speaking. He looked as though I shouldn't have been with my husband so yes it happens.
My beef with Camille is she's not holding ww responsibile for their parts of the past. WW have brought just as much damaged to bw as wm have to bm. I see it everyday. If you're an attractive bw, their is problems with ww and they love and adore loudmouth, fat bw. Not all ww are like this I will agree but many are. As I've said before, I was watching "black girls rock" which the show was created to help instilled the image of bw. Well who else other than a few ww had something negative to say about the show through comments later on.
I would be more inclined to agree with Camille if she admitted ww guilt. According to her ww are guilty because they were forced by wm to mistreats blacks and this is utterely B.S. Most bw will tell you if they're attracted and in shape, some ww have problems with it. I don't dispute what she's saying about wm but I do have a problem with her not accepting responsibility. Had she said yes we were guilty in the past but we apologize for our faults and we want ammends with bw, I could not be hositle toward her but she laying all guilt on wm when wm didn't twist their arms to mistreat us. WW are by no means innoncent and some are the most underhanded people ever, again not all but some.
My friend and I were talking Sunday and we said with bw, you know what your getting. Yes we may come off a bit strong but at least you know where we stand(and yes some come off to strong). However many ww come off as nice but are evil as hell.
-menessa
EmpathyWorks
2 months ago
I can empathize with Black men who feel this way. Just be yourself. PLEASE. The good women out there are not looking for swag. Swagg like Jay Z?? Oh please, thats just silly. Be you and be real, not the incredibly unattractive mess you see on Bovine Entertainment Television.
Much Love =)
Much Love =)
yetistillrise
6 months ago
I really enjoyed your video, good food for thought and I feel ya.
I think a good black man first starts with a man who has a real relationship with God. Without God you can't be a good black man or woman. And as a black woman I don't think I should allow myself to be disrespected as you stated nor should you the black man allow yourself to be disrespected either. But me I just want to love and be loved and be happy. And it greives my heart that it's so hard to find.
TashaKatrina
KANG07
reelfisshluv
I think a good black man first starts with a man who has a real relationship with God. Without God you can't be a good black man or woman. And as a black woman I don't think I should allow myself to be disrespected as you stated nor should you the black man allow yourself to be disrespected either. But me I just want to love and be loved and be happy. And it greives my heart that it's so hard to find.
TashaKatrina
5 months ago
a nice guy can be powerful when he stands up for the underdog.
i really respect a dude who can show his loyalty for a friend or belief.
i really respect a dude who can show his loyalty for a friend or belief.
KANG07
5 months ago 19
its funny because these so called "thugs" are the biggest cowards out there. they put on this tough guy image but they are the most insecure. If their girl cheats then they go crazy rather then saying f__ it, and bounce. They always want to shoot someone rather than fight one on one like a real man, they always fight in packs and run from the authorities. So thats what makes thugs hard? Bunch of lame cowards if you ask me
reelfisshluv
1 year ago 2
. Everyone feels as if there better than a black man and have the right to degrade him as soon as he makes one little mistake. I got racist treatment down in LA going to a white highschool trying to make it playing basketball. I didnt make the varsity team as a sophomore while 2 other white males in my grade did. The next season i started over both of them and made the all league team(which they did not) and they still acted as if they were better than me.
Nergy4life
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But a REAL SISTAH....SHE IS PRAYING FOR A REAL BROTHA!....and you will know that by the way she carries herself, how she spends her money (or yours, to a lesser extent), and where she spends her time. YOU STAY THE SAME....But, now look for something DIFFERENT. If a woman is just filling her space with you, she will NEVER treat you right. Find the woman who is looking for a man like you....we're out here....in your class....we have our degrees....we're all over, but not chasing you. Stay up!
I THINK THAT KHALISA IS A LOVELY LADY...WHO MAKES SOME VERY GOOD POINTS..OVERALL...I HAVE READ SEVERAL OF HER COMMENTS...BUT I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THIS...
NO SHE DOESN'T HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE SUCH BLANKET STATEMENTS ABOUT AMERICAN BLACK MEN...BECAUSE....FIRST OF ALL SHE IS NOT EVEN AA...NEXT OF ALL...ALL SHE IS DOING IS PLAYING INTO THE WHOLE "AFRICAN MEN,BAHAMIAN MEN,JAMACIAN MEN,WHITE MEN,HISPANIC MEN,ITALIAN MEN...ARE BETTER MINDSET"...OH MY BAD YOU LOVE THAT GAME DON'T YOU?....
BUT NO SHE IS ONCE AGAIN AN OUTSIDER MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT A GRUP OF MEN THAT SHE IS NEITHER INVOLVED WITH NOR IS QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON....WHICH IS NONSENSE....I HAVE DATED A FEW NATIVE AFRICAN WOMEN (AND I STILL CAN'T SPEAK ON ALL OF THEM)..AND HAVE KNOWN EVEN MORE MEN...AND NO THEY DO NOT ALL HAVE IT TOGETHER...THIS IS YET ANOTHER STUPID GENERALIZATION...
I KNOW NATIVE AFRICAN MEN THAT ARE TRIFLING AS HELL...HAVE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ALL OVER THE PLACE AND WHO HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR THEIR DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES...*NOT TO MENTION THAT MANY NATIVE AFRICAN MEN ARE VERY CONTROLLING,VERY ABUSIVE AND SEXIST AS HELL....*MOST AA WOMEN KNOW THIS..AND STAY AWAY FROM THEIR ASSES...MY WIFE HAS EVEN HAD EXPERIENCES WITH THEM PRIOR TO MARRIAGE...
YET THIS WOMAN HAS HAS EVERY RIGHT TO MAKE BIG ASS GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT AA MEN...PLAYING INTO THE WHOLE DIVIDE AND CONQUER MENTALITY!
YEAH..OKAY!..MORE BF NONSENSE!
-The Moor
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I don't applaud her and here's why. Why should a woman who is a middle school teacher expect a man to pay $300 for a meal. This is totally ridilicous. When a woman seeks a mate yes she should find someone who can provide but providing don't mean being ridilicous and this is nothing more than being flat out materilistic and not all women of other races and culture find rich men when they marry.
A white couple friend once told us that upon giving birth to her son she quit her job because she wanted to be a stay at home mom. Well before becommning pregnant her husband and she would live more lavish than before having her son. She said after the birth of her child, they really had to cut back because her husband was paying all the bills and they weren't able to live as before. Flash forward years later, the child is in high school, she has returned to work and they can live good again without the daycare, etc.
I'm not suggesting bw with a degree marry a person who has no desire than to work at a fast food establishment but if a man has a decent career as in this case of Moore situation, was an engineer, who was this woman who is a middle school teacher to think she deserves someone who will spend $300 on a first date meal.
What blacks don't realize is often especially with white and sometimes many other cultures is money often marries money. Look at Chelsa Clinton, I think I read where her husband father was some well known or wealthy man. The goal of finding a husband should be to find a person who share similar goals as you and together the two of you can build together and leave a legency for your children. Even in Hollywood, most rich couples marry other rich couples, especially whites, again money marry money. This is why you will see a non rich ww girl marrying a bm or a non known wm marrying a rich bw.
One more thing, I remember CNN show called "black in America" where they featured the elite blacks which we really don't hear much about them. Anyway these socialites hold events where their wealthy daughter and sons can meet other wealthy daughter and sons. Rich people didn't become rich by being stupid. This is why I believe a one should find a man with a good career, not saying he should make ridilicous amount of money but if he has a good job or career and is willing to provide that what is important. If you have children and have to sacrifice then sacrifice!!!!!
-menessa
Kingsland, GA
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Honey game know game and as a woman we can see right through her. This is why bw are often called stronger minded than bm because they sit here and agree with her without seeing her game. Then men such as Anti-Chaos asked me why didn't I defend bm but rather wm. Not once to her did I protect wm; as a matter of fact I acknowledged wm were at fault BUT I refuse to let this ww get away by claiming ww were only at fault due to ww and then she goes on to say ww had to create the feniminst movement because wm mistreated them so badly. WW are often more evil than if not just as much evil as wm. They smile in bm face while belittling and being mean to bw. WE have said this over and over but some of these men are so wrapped up in ww butt or they are so happy to hear about a ww degrading a wm that they refuse to see whats going on. This is why many bw are turning a deaf ear to bm accussations against wm due to their failure to hold bw accountable. One bm by the name of King accused Camille of being a bw simply because he just refused to believe your highness a ww could write this. Lol
-menessa
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caramel delight wrote:
um...bw haven't thrown themselves at wm, don't think wm are gods, and most of us don't want them...
i always wonder, how many black women have you men personally met that talk trash about black men and uplift white men?
and women too, how many black men have you met that talk trash about black women?
because i have never met either. the black men and women i know have only trashed talked their no good exes or any no good person they know, not the whole group.
*COSIGNS...THANK YOU!...
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT I LIVE IN A BURB THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO DETROIT..THE BLACKEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY....AND ALL THAT I SEE ARE BM WITH BW...AND YES I HEAR BM AND BW COMPLAINING ABOUT EACH OTHER...AND IN MY PREDOMINANTLY WHITE COMMUNITY I HEAR WHITES COMPLAINING ABOUT EACH OTHER!...JUST THE SAME...
BUT I NEVER HEAR BW SAYING STUFF LIKE BLACK MEN ARE DIRT AND I ONLY WANT A WM...OR BW ARE ALL USELESS I WANT TO DATE WM....
MIND YOU MY FAMILY AND I DO MANY THINGS IN DETROIT...BECAUSE WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE AWARE OF BOTH THE GOOD AND THE BAD IN THEIR PEOPLE AND TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THEM...AND TO BE AWARE OF THE ISSUES THAT OTHERS HAVE AS WELL...AND TO KNOW THAT NO BP ARE NOT PERFECT....NOR ARE OTHER RACES....WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN ISSUES....AND THIS INCLUDES BOTH BM AND BW....
BUT AS FAR AS ALL OF THIS BW HATING BM OR ALL BM HATING BW....MY REALITY IS SO DIFFERENT AND SO IS THAT OF MY WIFE...SO THAT WHEN WE READ-HEAR ALL OF THIS CRAZY STUFF WE JUST LAUGH!
99% OF THE BLACK PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW ARE WITH EACH OTHER...EVEN IN THE SUBURBS....NOW MIND YOU THERE ARE SOME IR COUPLES HERE AND THERE OF COURSE...BUT THAT'S NOT THE NORM AT ALL.
-The Moor
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menessa wrote:
What does she do for a living? I mean I want lie as some bw are unrealistic. I had a coworker once when I was in college who introduced her boyfriend at the time as being the SGA(student govertnment association) president of a large mostly white college. He was an engineer majored and had co-op at places such as Proctor&Gamble and was already offered a job with a great salary. She was only interested in him for money with her Fashion Merchandising degree. I'm not downing her major but come on, its not like she had a hard major.
Women like this makes it hard for decent bw who aren't like this and want a good man. THese men see women like this and will reject the next bw. Let me ask you a question, how do she look. Is she a older Beyonce type bw? I ask this because oftentimes bm/bw will get hard or get turned down by these type bm/bw and swear all of the rest are like this. Noone wants an unattractive female but their has to be more than beauty.
HEY MENESSA,
THE WOMAN IN QUESTION IS VERY NICE LOOKING,IF THAT IS YOUR TYPE....SHE'S DARK SKIN VERY PRETTY WITH A NICE FIGURE...SO SHE IS NICE LOOKING...BUT SO WHAT....AS YOU STATED....THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO A WOMAN THAN HER BEAUTY...WHERE IS THE COMMON SENSE...MEN LIKE THIS DATE NICE LOOKING WOMEN ALL OF THE TIME...SO WHAT!
*I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD PEOPLE THAT EVEN THOUGH MY WIFE IS VERY NICE LOOKING...IT WASN'T HER LOOKS THAT CLOSED THE DEAL FOR ME...HELL AS SHE HERSELF STATED..."YOU KNOW ALL THE PRETTY GIRLS DON'T YOU"....I TURNED DOWN GOING OUT WITH NICE LOOKING GIRLS TO GO OUT WITH HER...IT WAS HER HEART...SHE HAS A HEART OF GOLD...THAT IS SO GENUINE!....
THIS SECOND COUSIN OF MY WIFE'S IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER...SO IT'S NOT LIKE SHE MAKES A FORTUNE...AND THIS GUY MAKES A PRETTY GOOD LIVING...HAS A HOME IN A PRETTY NICE COMMUNITY....BUT HE'S DATING ANOTHER BW NOW...ANOTHER FRIEND OF A FRIEND FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD....AND MY WIFE'S SECOND COUSIN WHO IS TOO GOOD TO GO TO PANERA JUST TO TALK...
IS LIVING AT HOME WITH HER MOTHER...WHO HAS NO MAN...AND IS NOT DATING ANYONE....AND ACCORDING TO MY WIFE SHE HAS BEEN ASKING ABOUT THIS MAN...BUT HE'S GONE ON ABOUT HIS BUSINESS...
WHO KNOWS....MAYBE SHE REALLY WANTS A NONBM....MY WIFE AND HER FIRST COUSIN JUST CAME OUT AND ASKED HER IF SHE WAS A.GAY, OR B.WANTED A NONBM....AND SHE TOLD THEM HELL NO TO BOTH....BUT ONCE AGAIN WHO KNOWS!
*AND YES I WOULD TELL ANYONE THAT JUST AS THERE ARE BAD BM THAT MESS IT UP F0R US ALL...THERE ARE BW WHO TURN SOME MEN OFF TO ALL BW.
-The Moor
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Great post. All that beautiful brown skin. I watched a short bit of the show, as well. I love when a group of brown skin folk come together in their "Sunday best".
You know I'm not one of those bw who believe other races of men are better or that other races don't cheat. I believe cheating isn't restricted to race because I know for a fact that a man of other race can and will cheat, I know to many who have. In additon, its not the cheating if you think about that has caused many bw to begin to resent some bm or really the some not really taking care of their children because many men did this back in the day but overall bw still loved them. Its not even the dating or marrying other races because even then, bw still loved them. The thing that has pierced bw in the heart and has just made them see many in a different light is the placing other races on a pedestal while degrading bw. So many black girls self esteem are just gone. I was watching Black Girls Rock Sunday night and the creator of the show was talking about how bw image how been damaged and how we are going to take it back. She talked about how once your image is destroyed, you don't care and you began to act out on it.
I agree with this. Back in the day, bw cared about their apperances because once again even though many men ran around, we as bw knew overall bm loved us and so back in the day bw cared more about keeping themselves up. Now we see many bw who just seem to not to care especially with the weight. This is a result of low self esteem and this comes from society telling us that we are ugly, fat, loud, obese, etc. If someone keeps telling you this, it will destroy ones self esteem and believ it or not, you will stop caring BUT it hurts even more when it comes from your own race of men.
Bw who have strong self esteem are trying to uplift other bw(or least some are). What I love about Moore is he has dated outside his race but he has never degraded bw. He admits some bw aren't wife material and some are not(we have to be truthful) but he never uplfts another race of women over his own and this is the type of bm that I'm used to. I don't know where this breed of bm these days came from.
The reason why Black women and in particular AMERICAN BLACK WOMEN are under attack today is because we had begun taking back our image and reclaiming our pride and position from world opinion and it was noticed. You see as long as we played into the hands of the manipulators that understood our strengths better than we did everything was a-okay. No longer. Michelle shook us up and reminded us that we can achieve. That we had been achieving even in our doubt and depression; we were just being meek about it. No longer. We are strong and we have been reminded and those that would destroy us are out in force and failing.
-WowTheBoogieDown
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I respect this comment. I also love Moor. He is what a family man and respector of Black women should be. Other Black American men should study his posts to learn what it means to be secure in your manhood, while being true to your woman and your family.
I respect brothers that date and marry out, as long as they don't find the need to diminish women of color. Do what you do. Love who you love. Stop feeling guilty or ashamed by your choice and to hell with the haters. Just stop dumping on Black American women. They did not one thing against you and if one of them did. Forgive her. Forgive her. you are a man and you are going to face rejection all of the time. It is the nature of life. You can not go around taking all of these moments of rejection and blaming Black American women. It's crazy and senseless. Be a man. Place the blame where it belongs and don't throw the bathwater out with the baby. One person may have done you a wrong. DOn't blame us all. If you have the time, please teach your non-Black wife to respect Black women. When your non-Black wife disrespects Black women, she is disrespecting you.
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Very true..This breed of bm will now collaborate with ww/wm to talk badly of us, and it's shameful to know that some bw are turning into some serious Aunt Jemimas, who will turn on their own people in a heartbeat...
-Dinie
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COSIGNS...THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH...
I SEE IT EVERY DAY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN...ON THE FACES OF WHITE MEN WHO HATE TO SEE ME COMING WITH MY BLACK WIFE...THESE MEN HAVE THIS WHOLE ATTITUDE THAT SHE IS TOO NICE LOOKING AND TOO TOGETHER TO BE WITH A BM/THAT THEY KNOW IS A LOSER...NEVER MIND THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ME/THAT WE HAVE NEVER MET...
MY WIFE HAD ONE BOSS WHO CLEARLY HATED FOR HER TO SAY ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT HER HUSBAND...THIS GUY GOT TO THE POINT WHERE HE WOULD TAKE POTSHOTS AT ME FROM THE SIDE....SHE STATED THAT "MY HUSBAND IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT HISTORY....THIS GUY RESPONDED WITH...WHAT LIKE ENTERTAINMENT OR POP CULTURE HISTORY"...THIS SAME GUY TOLD HER EARLY ON THAT "SHE WAS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR"....SHE HAD TO CHECK HIS ASS...BECAUSE HE WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES....THEN WOULDN'T YOU KNOW IT...HIS WIFE DIVORCED HIM...
SO YES THEY DO HATE TO SEE US BM AND BW TOGETHER LIVING TOGETHER AND LOVING EACH OTHER AND TAKING GOOD CARE OF EACH OTHER...NOT TO MENTION US DOING WELL...THEY HATE TO SEE BW WITH BM....
"ESPECIALLY IF SHE IS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE WITH A WM" WHO ARE ALWAYS IN HER FACE...IT'S SICK....THESES GUYS GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BE NICE TO HER....TO SHOW HER THAT WM ARE AS SOME SILLY ASS BW ON TOPIX PUT IT..."WHITE MEN ARE NICE"...LOL!...THEY ONLY WANT TO SCORE POINTS WITH BW AGAINST BM...JUST LIKE THEY DID TO ASIAN MEN/EAST INDIAN MEN AND SO ON...MANY OF THESE GUYS ARE INSECURE,TERRIFIED COWARDS...WHO NEED TO BE VIEWED AS WHITE KNIGHTS...BY ALL WOMEN....THUS THEIR WHOLE PRESENCE HERE
AS IF ANY MAN IS NOT EVER NICE TO A NICE LOOKING WOMAN....DUH?
*YES THERE ARE SOME GOOD WHITE MEN...NO DOUBT...BUT JUST BEING A WHITE MAN...WHO TALKS SOFLY,ACTS NICE AND WHO PRETENDS TO NOT HATE BLACK PEOPLE BEING TOGETHER IS A LIE!...I SEE IT EVERY DAY!
-The Moor
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Moore,
I agree with what you're saying as it has happened to my husband. One day my husband met me for lunch as we were sitting out on a picnic bench when this wm walked passed up and literally rolled his eyes at my husband after looking directly at me and speaking. He looked as though I shouldn't have been with my husband so yes it happens.
My beef with Camille is she's not holding ww responsibile for their parts of the past. WW have brought just as much damaged to bw as wm have to bm. I see it everyday. If you're an attractive bw, their is problems with ww and they love and adore loudmouth, fat bw. Not all ww are like this I will agree but many are. As I've said before, I was watching "black girls rock" which the show was created to help instilled the image of bw. Well who else other than a few ww had something negative to say about the show through comments later on.
I would be more inclined to agree with Camille if she admitted ww guilt. According to her ww are guilty because they were forced by wm to mistreats blacks and this is utterely B.S. Most bw will tell you if they're attracted and in shape, some ww have problems with it. I don't dispute what she's saying about wm but I do have a problem with her not accepting responsibility. Had she said yes we were guilty in the past but we apologize for our faults and we want ammends with bw, I could not be hositle toward her but she laying all guilt on wm when wm didn't twist their arms to mistreat us. WW are by no means innoncent and some are the most underhanded people ever, again not all but some.
My friend and I were talking Sunday and we said with bw, you know what your getting. Yes we may come off a bit strong but at least you know where we stand(and yes some come off to strong). However many ww come off as nice but are evil as hell.
-menessa
EmpathyWorks
6 months ago
The Black Panther Party was one of the great struggles of our American history.
I disagree w/ their views on Mao, but their motives were not in vain. Obama wouldnt be president if it wasnt for these brave people.
I disagree w/ their views on Mao, but their motives were not in vain. Obama wouldnt be president if it wasnt for these brave people.
ramonrockchamp
3 weeks ago
people don't realize that the weapons that they got were from richard aoki and he was also in the japanese internment camps as well. weres afeni shakur, assata shakur and richard aoki
MsLoveMe27
MsLoveMe27
1 month ago
@MsLoveMe27 I know that...these guys were well versed in the law and the constitution...in fact this movement was one of the reasons why this law was changed. It was just a joke from the way things were to how they are now jeez......
jazziccoolcat
bapyou
jazziccoolcat
3 months ago
Panther was the sequal to Malcolm X! This is the movie where Angela Bassett met her husband Courtney B. Vance.
bapyou
4 weeks ago
4:47 - That's actual footage of Ronald Reagan, the chief fascist himself. A man who funded right-wing governments in El Salvador and Guatemala, both of whom were responsible for the murder of thousands of their respective countrymen. Unsurprisingly, Ronald Reagan called one of these butchers --- Guatemala's Rios Montt -- a "man who had the best interests of the Guatemalan people at heart."
This is what fascists do: Murder. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, Reagan: The fascist scum cadre.
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UNCLE TOMS & SELL OUTS
Ok. This is just a general view. Putting aside literary references to UNCLE TOM'S CABIN, it's clear that the term "uncle tom" as a negative term has a history of its own within African-American popular and political discourse. It's been around for decades longer than I've been alive--probably longer than my mother has been alive.
Generally "Uncle Tom" seems to refer to a servile black person who is SOOOOO servile that he/she identifies more with whites than his/her own people.
Or it may also mean someone who sells out his/her people (especially in terms of the struggle)
A good example of this might be the house slave who informed on Denmark Vesey, leading to his death and the suppression of the slave revolt in Charleston, SC.
Or perhaps another example would be a character like Gene Roberts, and FBI agent who infiltrated Malcolm's OAAU, even becoming Malcolm's bodyguard.
As historically the tendency toward this kind of "Uncle Tomisn" was more common with privileged blacks--especially house slaves as Frederick Douglass points out--the tendency may have started THEN to regard the elite blacks as tending to be traitorous, and identifying with their white oppressors.
Fred Douglass in his 3rd autobiography and CLR James in his historical classic BLACK JACOBINS, points to that tendency.
Nonetheless, no class is monolithic. Dr. King belonged to the middle class. So did Paul Robeson, Septima Clark, Diane Nash, Stokely Carmichael. All these persons were committed to the struggle and PAID DEARLY for that commitment--King with his life.
All of them were "educated"---King with a Ph.D. in Philosophy and Theology. Robeson with a law degree.
Then there are people like Clarence Thomas--in my opinion an UNCLE TOM SUPREME.
I do not consider an brother or sister a "Tom" because we disagree. They must be DOING something treacherous, and more or less intentionally so.
-Savant
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THECHAMP156
wesaline55
This is what fascists do: Murder. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, Reagan: The fascist scum cadre.
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UNCLE TOMS & SELL OUTS
Ok. This is just a general view. Putting aside literary references to UNCLE TOM'S CABIN, it's clear that the term "uncle tom" as a negative term has a history of its own within African-American popular and political discourse. It's been around for decades longer than I've been alive--probably longer than my mother has been alive.
Generally "Uncle Tom" seems to refer to a servile black person who is SOOOOO servile that he/she identifies more with whites than his/her own people.
Or it may also mean someone who sells out his/her people (especially in terms of the struggle)
A good example of this might be the house slave who informed on Denmark Vesey, leading to his death and the suppression of the slave revolt in Charleston, SC.
Or perhaps another example would be a character like Gene Roberts, and FBI agent who infiltrated Malcolm's OAAU, even becoming Malcolm's bodyguard.
As historically the tendency toward this kind of "Uncle Tomisn" was more common with privileged blacks--especially house slaves as Frederick Douglass points out--the tendency may have started THEN to regard the elite blacks as tending to be traitorous, and identifying with their white oppressors.
Fred Douglass in his 3rd autobiography and CLR James in his historical classic BLACK JACOBINS, points to that tendency.
Nonetheless, no class is monolithic. Dr. King belonged to the middle class. So did Paul Robeson, Septima Clark, Diane Nash, Stokely Carmichael. All these persons were committed to the struggle and PAID DEARLY for that commitment--King with his life.
All of them were "educated"---King with a Ph.D. in Philosophy and Theology. Robeson with a law degree.
Then there are people like Clarence Thomas--in my opinion an UNCLE TOM SUPREME.
I do not consider an brother or sister a "Tom" because we disagree. They must be DOING something treacherous, and more or less intentionally so.
-Savant
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THECHAMP156
4 months ago
(NOTE THAT I AM WHITE) KKK sucks but the Black Panthers are awseom they actually fought for justice. Back then our kind had issues, I hope I don't to be like that POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!
wesaline55
1 year ago 5
even till 2dai people still dont understand that the panthers fought 4 black people's rights whereas the whiteman saw it as n___ out of control.......this movement really touched me in a way i cant explain......POWER TO THE PEOPLE.
illmatic826
2 months ago
I wish black folks were more together today like we were in the 60's - early 90's but today is more about money & bull___ I mean really when Rodney king got beat down the number 1 song on the radio was fight the power by PE a couple years ago this kid in New York got shot by a cop for no reason nobody gave it the press it should of got & the number one song was lollipop by lil wayne, see a pattern here
LoveBeautyMusicAngel
1 year ago 10
The police ruined the black community by planting drugs && what not. Its sad the way they been doing us since they brought us to America. Its funny how they brought us here they treated us like crap! The movie is fantastic.
TheMonolith75
4 days ago
Ohhhhh!! He is so RIGHT!! I mean...What's the POINT? I never saw the signifcance in that.Growing up,I never wanted to get all "sexed up"to get attention!! You can still look wonderful....So glad (as a black woman) I don't think this way! I have embraced the skin I'm in.The hair that I have(locks)... If you're dark,light or brown...Kinky,soft curly or straight....You still ALL THAT without exploiting yourself(sexually)...WORD!!!! EMBRACE THE BEAUTY WITHIN!! And it will shine...INSIDE OUT:-)
MrBlee21
4 months ago 4
When it comes to love for black on black relationship, they need to step their game up, I would never marry white women because of their money, power or sexual desires. and I love my black queens that are close to me to help with my life. Love is universal but please, Black men and women, know thyself!
thesassiest
5 months ago
I have to disagree with u because no race of women have struggle with bm but bw, bm and bw are more familiar wit eachother. Non blks can study blk history and have sympathy, but they will never understand, the only way to truly understand is to live the life of a black person. There were alot of things tooken frm us by those same non blks whom u claim can take a blk mates place, that they will never give back.
BantuNation
6 months ago
@CerebralMadness
I dont mind people with mixed heritage. What I do pay attention to that is if they are Black 1st minded though. And thats not a racist thing, I'm just seeing where they would honestly be at if something went down. I do this mentality check with full blooded ones as well. Alot of the black women from the islands have the same problems from the ones I've dated.
I also understand how BW feel, thats why I wanted to get the word out that I believe most of us want each other
I dont mind people with mixed heritage. What I do pay attention to that is if they are Black 1st minded though. And thats not a racist thing, I'm just seeing where they would honestly be at if something went down. I do this mentality check with full blooded ones as well. Alot of the black women from the islands have the same problems from the ones I've dated.
I also understand how BW feel, thats why I wanted to get the word out that I believe most of us want each other
60NXNP09
4 months ago
Beside the Counter intelligent (COINTELPRO) by the FBI that's was set up to hold black people down, these little bacteria pawn aka manufacture thugs is one of the factors that's holding the black people from progress.
BantuNation
5 months ago
@optimuspecs
I understand all that, and so did the black panthers, and many of our leaders in the 60s. We had REAL black communities, black businesses, black tradesman etc, etc. Then we integrated, and that was voluntary, and now we have NOTHING, and every chance we get to have something we want to share it with everyone , while everyone could give a rats anus about us. And so now we have to reap that.
I understand all that, and so did the black panthers, and many of our leaders in the 60s. We had REAL black communities, black businesses, black tradesman etc, etc. Then we integrated, and that was voluntary, and now we have NOTHING, and every chance we get to have something we want to share it with everyone , while everyone could give a rats anus about us. And so now we have to reap that.
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Not necessarily. I have said before on this site
that there are REAL sell outs.
A sell out is anybody that doesn't put principles and the love of our people FIRST before any decision.
It does NOT MEAN someone pursuing a lifestyle of success. There is a major difference.
A sell out/OREO/Uncle Tom (though an inaccurate term if you consider the origins) is also someone who doesn't like Black people or want to be around them.
I could be more specific but I will use those definitions for the purposes of this thread.
I am sorry. I cannot stand Oreo sell-outs. I hate them and hate them far worse than the worst racist. In fact I hate anyone against their own kind.
Traitors and cowards...they all ought to be exterminated as far as I am concerned.
-soulflower
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Perhaps we need to transcend the notion of a humanity divided between wealth and poverty, between the winners and losers.
"True wealth lies in the commonwealth," Dr. King once wrote. But the achievement of that kind of community must between the work of blacks, whites, Latins--indeed humanity.
It is time to move beyond the acquisitive "thing-oriented society" to a "person-oriented society."
Indeed, once we learn how much we are the slave to things and to those who own things (despite our vaunted liberty) the more we can see how UNFREE we actually are, and how much we're in dire need for human liberation.
I'm told that when Dr. King spoke in Baltimore in 1967, he reportedly said that "The greatest difference between us and our deluded white brethren, is that we KNOW we're not free while they think they are."
How to free the mind?
-Savant
Not necessarily. I have said before on this site
that there are REAL sell outs.
A sell out is anybody that doesn't put principles and the love of our people FIRST before any decision.
It does NOT MEAN someone pursuing a lifestyle of success. There is a major difference.
A sell out/OREO/Uncle Tom (though an inaccurate term if you consider the origins) is also someone who doesn't like Black people or want to be around them.
I could be more specific but I will use those definitions for the purposes of this thread.
I am sorry. I cannot stand Oreo sell-outs. I hate them and hate them far worse than the worst racist. In fact I hate anyone against their own kind.
Traitors and cowards...they all ought to be exterminated as far as I am concerned.
-soulflower
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Perhaps we need to transcend the notion of a humanity divided between wealth and poverty, between the winners and losers.
"True wealth lies in the commonwealth," Dr. King once wrote. But the achievement of that kind of community must between the work of blacks, whites, Latins--indeed humanity.
It is time to move beyond the acquisitive "thing-oriented society" to a "person-oriented society."
Indeed, once we learn how much we are the slave to things and to those who own things (despite our vaunted liberty) the more we can see how UNFREE we actually are, and how much we're in dire need for human liberation.
I'm told that when Dr. King spoke in Baltimore in 1967, he reportedly said that "The greatest difference between us and our deluded white brethren, is that we KNOW we're not free while they think they are."
How to free the mind?
-Savant
