Tuesday, March 24, 2009

African American Pastor Jailed for Speaking Up

http://www.earnedmedia.org/nbplu0323.htm

http://www.covenantnews.com/abortion/archives/054246.html

3 comments:

Andrea Muhrrteyn said...

FROM: J-MC Patriot Alert Task Force (jmc.pa.tf@gmail.com)
TO: dion@issues4life.org
CC: TempeAnnOtealia@aol.com, shabazzlaw@aol.com, "Ras Thandi (UWC-AIDS)" (honourebel@webmail.co.za),
"Ras Thandi (UWC-AIDS)" (2749770@uwc.ac.za), End AIDS Today (endaidstoday@yahoo.com), boyded2003@yahoo.com
DATE: Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:32 AM
SUBJECT: “If it's never our fault, we can't take responsibility for it. If we can't take responsibility for it, we'll always be its victim.”
_____________________________

Reverend Walter Hoye
Issues 4 Life
c/o & via: Rev. Dion Evans/Issues 4 Life

CC: Dr. Johnny Hunter
Learn National Director
c/o & via: Rev. Dion Evans/Issues 4 Life

CC: Dr. Alveda King
Priests for Life Pastoral Associate
c/o & via: Rev. Dion Evans/Issues 4 Life

CC: President Day Gardner
National Black Pro-Life Union
c/o & via: Rev. Dion Evans/Issues 4 Life

CC: Jesse Jackson, Jr. and John Conyers
Congressional Black Caucus
c/o & via: Rev. Dion Evans/Issues 4 Life

Demian Emile Johnson
Salinas Valley State Prison
c/o & via: Mrs. Ann Otelia Johnson ()

CC: Alameda Superior Court Judge Stuart Hing
Ref: State v. Reverend Walter Hoye/Issues 4 Life
http://www.alameda.courts.ca.gov/courtfeedback.asp

CC: Attorney Shabbazz
Black Panther Party [Ref: Disclosure Email: Request for Info on New Black Panther Party's Population Policies on Root Causes of Terrorism]

CC: Ras, Sifiso and Mxolisi;
Rastafari Steve Biko Black Consciousness University of Western Cape Students

CC: Dr. Boyd Gaves, author 'State Origin of AIDS'
c/o End Aids Today

Reverend Hoye,

RE: “If it's never our fault, we can't take responsibility for it. If we can't take responsibility for it, we'll always be its victim.”

I was informed by Mr. Timothy James ‘Truthseeker’, of your plight, and your committed efforts on behalf of the pro-life/anti-abortion issue.

I noticed that your cause is indeed extremely popular, not only with various journalists, but it appears with a significant number of (alleged?) ‘Black Power’ supporters.

I’d be more than happy to write a letter on your behalf to Judge Hing, I just first wanted to clarify what your ‘black consciousness’ ‘black power and dignity’ ‘human rights, peace and social justice population and resource’, etc. anti-abortion/pro-life leadership perspective and opinions were, on the following issues:

1. Mr. Heinberg: liberals and progressives failing to talk about population and resource issues and propose workable population and resource solutions are merely helping to create their own worst nightmare: intellectual dishonesty & hypocrisy in advocating for human rights, peace and social justice:

‘To advocate for human rights, peace & social justice; while ignoring their necessary ecological basis – is intellectual dishonesty & hypocrisy. The longer we put off choosing the nicer methods of achieving demographic stability, the more likely the nasty ones become, whether imposed by nature or by some fascistic regime.

An ethic of human rights, of sharing, and of equity without a practically expressed awareness of ecological limits is a setup for disaster. But demographic competition by way of fascism, as a response to population-resource crises, is an admission of failure; and it is less an expression of human nature than of the ugly habits formed through the past few thousand civilized years of extreme inequality, hierarchy, and authoritarianism.

The longer we wait, the fewer our options. Social liberals and progressives who fail to talk about population and resource issues and propose workable solutions are merely helping to create their own worst nightmare.’
~ (Population, Resources, and Human Idealism by Richard Heinberg) ~


2. Steve Biko: Black Consciousness, Being Black and Black Pride & Dignity from Bondage:

‘Being black is not a matter of pigmentation – being black is a reflection of a mental attitude’ and that ‘by describing yourself as black you have started on the road to emancipation, you have committed yourself to fight against all forces that seek to use your blackness as a stamp that marks you out as a subservient being’.

‘The first step therefore is to make the black man come to himself; to pump back life into his empty shell; to infuse him with pride and dignity, to remind him of his complicity in the crime of allowing himself to be misused’

Being non-white, for Biko, was not the same as being black. If your aspirations are white but the pigmentation of your skin makes this impossible, then you are non-white not black.

Black consciousness seeks to infuse the black community with a new-found pride in themselves, their efforts, their value systems, their culture, their religion and their outlook to life … Liberation, therefore, is of paramount importance in the concept of Black consciousness, for we cannot be conscious of ourselves and yet remain in bondage.
(I write what I think, Steve Biko)


3. Martin Luther King: gravity of the problem of the modern plague of overpopulation and the importance of education of the billions of its victims:

“Unlike plagues of the dark ages or contemporary diseases which we do not yet understand, the modern plague of overpopulation is soluble by means we have discovered and with resources we possess. What is lacking is not sufficient knowledge of the solution, but universal consciousness of the gravity of the problem and the education of the billions who are it’s victims”
~ Martin Luther King ~


4. Does ‘black’ culture confuse ‘love’ with ‘hate’; thereby consciously, or subconsciously co-creating a black consciousness of self-hate? How do black consciousness leaders propose to receive honest and sincere respect (as opposed to the usual fake and pretentious two faced sycophancy can’t-be-honest-with-a-nigger liberal ‘respect’), as a culture; when you have so little value for the human rights of your ‘black children’ and black consciousness ecological and socio-cultural environments in which they are born, not only subsequent to their conception, but prior thereto?

I often ask Black Africans, why they have so many children, when they don't seem to be able to afford them. They say it is their culture, to love children. When I ask them to please explain to me, how it is 'loving' to give birth to a child in a concentration camp, abuse the child with neglect and violence; they say I don't understand. I ask them to please help me to understand; are they saying that to neglect and violently abuse your child, is LOVE? Are they saying that is how they show 'LOVE'. They are then infuriated with me; I am a racist. I say, 'No I am just trying to understand'; you say African black culture loves children, which is why you have so many children; but please can you show me what actions you mean by 'LOVE'?
~ (Lara Johnstone) ~


5. Is ‘black’ cultural leadership confused about its ultimate goal? Is the goal of ‘Black Consciousness’ or ‘Black Pride’ (i) the exponential breeding of millions of hated, unwanted and unloved and consequently emotionally and psychologically stunted babies, children, women and men, as possible future ‘cannon fodder’ for the ‘Black Power’ cause; or (ii) the encouragement of ‘black’ emotional and psychological pride, of conscious and committed emotional and psychological choices of procreation and reproduction, commitment and responsibility to your offspring, before they are even born; and to refrain from procreating them, until a loving black conscious loving environment can be created, even if in a poor home?

In an interview a few years ago with the “Times-Picayune” in New Orleans, Morris Jeff, who was President of the National Association of Black Social Workers, and director of the New Orleans Welfare Department, thinks the high Black birthrate serves a long-range purpose for the Black race. Jeff said, “should they have children? I don’t think they should not have children .. .1 think reproduction patterns are based on self-interest, although not in any conscious sense. When you look at the gains the Black community has made, it hasn’t been based so much on opportunity as on the profoundness of numbers. In the political arena, you count vots. . .

“The best self-interest of the Black community is for it to have its numbers. I could not support a position that would decrease our numbers. In some in-stances, this is what Darwin was talking about, the name of the game is just to be there in the future.”
(Black Population Welfare Bomb Ticks, by David Duke)


6. Is it true that abstaining from conceiving an unwanted baby can prevent an abortion, since a baby that is never conceived, can accordingly never be aborted? Is it true that if NOT ONE UNWANTED BABY WAS CONCEIVED AS OF TOMORROW; that would mean there would be NO UNWANTED BABIES WHOSE MOTHERS WANTED TO ABORT THEM? If pro-life anti-abortionists could choose to focus on the root emotional, psychological, sexual and spiritual root causes of how to avoid the conception of unwanted babies; then they could effectively eliminate the need for any future abortions; could they not? Would providing every single woman on the planet earth, particularly poor women living in oppressive patriarchal cultures; the opportunity to (i) be provided with free contraceptions, such as an IUD (copper-T’s) or as appropriate; and (ii) financial educational incentives, similar to the GI-Bill, for all women who oman voluntarily choose to refrain from procreation until 25 years old, who have gained an education, and are accordingly emotionally, psychologically and intellectually more capable of discernment in not only loving, committed responsible motherhood, but also in choosing a husband who respects her, loves her, and is committed to responsible, loving fatherhood?

“I am convinced that some political and social activities and practices of the Catholic organizations are detrimental and even dangerous for the community as a whole, here and everywhere. I mention here only the fight against birth control at a time when overpopulation in various countries has become a serious threat to the health of people and a grave obstacle to any attempt to organize peace on this planet.”
~ Albert Einstein, 1954 ~


AND CONSEQUENTLY:


7. I was curious, as an official ‘Spoken Vessels’ prophet speaking on behalf of Jesus and God; do you perhaps know what Jesus and God’s opinions were on:

Your efforts to encourage and infuse your community with pride and dignity, in enquiring whether their conduct and ideas of human rights, peace and social justice black consciousness, are infusing them with black consciousness pride and dignity; or are unconsciously encouraging their complicity in the crime of allowing themselves to be misused as cannon fodder and enslaved in bondage and ignorance on behalf of those in search of angry, easily provoked hateful and vengeful cannon fodder?

Your efforts to support Dr. Martin Luther King’s perspective on the importance of educating the people about the modern plague of overpopulation and educating the billions of victims on workable loving zero population growth procreation population and resource solutions.

Your efforts to Encourage your fellow black academic, spiritual, and political leaders to embark on a Socratic public enquiry whether: (i) black culture subconscious or conscious cultural procreation myths which implicitly ignore and rebuke addressing population and resource issues, encourage a ‘loving’ or ‘self-hating’ black consciousness pride and family loving values dignity?; (ii) whether ‘black consciousness’ leadership existential ‘black consciousness’ and values ultimate goal is (a) the exponential breeding of millions of hated, unwanted and unloved and consequently emotionally and psychologically stunted babies; or (b) loving, responsible, human rights, peace and justice values, based upon rational and reasoned population and resource realities cultural myths and values.

Your efforts to support women, organisations and the black community, to encourage and cultivate a pride and dignity of black consciousness that focuses on providing women with the biological and financial incentives and opportunities to avoid conceiving any unwanted child, prior to acquiring an education and the necessary emotional, psychological and spiritual personal growth, to be a committed responsible black conscious mother, to the conception of a loving wanted baby, with a committed, responsible and loving black conscious father.

Respectfully,


Lara Johnstone
State v. Johnstone: Crimen Inuria
http://crimeninuria.blogspot.com
http://in-gods-name.blogspot.com

Timothy said...

I knew you would respond in that fashion. Regardless of what you saw, the real issue is that a man's First Amendment rights have been suppressed in America. I have a right to stand up for a Pastor's right to express his Pro-Life views in a peaceful manner. This has nothing to do with population control issues or hypocrispy at all. It seems like you hate anyone being strongly Pro-Life or being strongly pro-population growth. Conversely, I don't. I'm thankful to God that I'm Pro-Life and pro-population growth. Also, black American population growth isn't radically going up at all. Black population growth have been slim until reccent years. You need to stop embracing the pro-NWO tenets of population control.

Also, there is no such thing as unwanted babies. All humans have value and purpose regardless of what you say.

By Timothy

Andrea Muhrrteyn said...

Dearest Tim,

I appreciate you for your response. I don't know if you are intentionally funny sometimes, but sometimes when I read what you write, you make me smile; not at, but what I would like to think is with you.

I am happy that even though you appear to think that I think the earth is flat, and I think you think the earth is flat, when it comes to the issue of population growth.... I am okay with that, and I don't know why but rather than angry... i thihk -- why do we even bother? does anyone care? who cares what reality is? so many just care about ego's?

Anyway... i always love hearing from you... and maybe some day we agree, and if not. so when you gonna help me out with your friends in ft. meade?

Lara