Troy's words

It is no secret that New York is heavily Jewish. Do these pro-CFR secular & false-religious Jews support the Torah-faithful Jewish people persecuted by the pro-Vatican Israeli government? You must be joking.

Once again, we see no breakdown & list of the individuals & organisations that they are imagined to be thoroughly filling the ranks of & in ultimate control of. This pathetic fantasy got thoroughly deconstructed by Eric Phelps in his recent analysis of the demographics of the high-level Banking world. Much of this information I also researched.

The US is controlled by London, Zurich & ultimately Rome. "The State" of Israel is the 51st State of the United Staes of America, hence the name also just in case the dimmest of the profane couldn't work this out.

The whole Babylonian Mystery Religion system from which that we call the Kabbalah in its multitude of spellings IS the Roman Catholic Church. Those heretic Jewish practitioners of Babylonian Masonry were servants, nay slaves, of Babylon. As were their spiritual & no doubt in some cases physical descendants, the Sabbateans & Frankists who developed Labor Zionism under the Jesuit-directed Nazis watchful eye, while all other forms of Zionism were crushed & their Jewish advocates killed en masse.

Again we have this myth that the "Neo-Cons" run the US & that they are almost all Jewish. Complete rubbish on both counts with no evidence provided as usual. Do they have a hand? Yes. Are some of them racially Jewish? Yes. Do they support the Vatican agenda as made plain by the Vatican Accord that was appended to the Oslo Accords in 1993 & subsequently reinforced by other legal Vatican-Israel power deals, unquestionably in Rome's geopolitical & spiritual favour subsequently? Is the Pope a Catholic?

The above quote attributed to Bill Cooper just shows how even he took as read much of the info that he obtained from his intelligence days. As we know in his latter days he recognised that his perception the true nature of the ET phenomenon was dependant upon info that he was fed in the intelligence world. Don't forget that the intell world is based on compartmentalised knowledge & there is much chatter & disinfo knowingly fed to those at every level below the highest & that these agents are all busy dealing with working on their given projects. This is pre Masonic/Babylonian hirarchical knowledge power structure control system methodology.

Any true truthseeker aware of the classic work "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome" by Charles Chiniquy (whose lawyer was Abraham Lincoln) will know that the Jesuit hand was behind Lincoln's assassination, leading to the cutting off of US diplomatic relations. A situation that continued until Ronald Reagan established a concordat with Rome in the 1980's, for which he was honoured by the Knights of Malta. Which decoration I stated above:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_pro_merito_Melitensi



“The Order of Merit pro Merito Melitensi of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta is a knightly order of merit established in 1920. It is awarded to men and women who have brought honour and prestige to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta or actively promoted Christian values or works of charity in the Christian tradition as defined by the Roman Catholic Church. Although, strictly speaking, honorees become knights or dames, they are not invested in a religious ceremony as knights and dames of the Order of Malta itself (which is a military order of chivalry); therefore the Order pro Merito Melitensi (sometimes “Melitense”) may be bestowed upon non-Catholics. Conferees include prominent statesmen, such as Ronald Reagan (who received it while still in office) and George H.W. Bush. The Order of Merit has certain ranks (such as knight commander) no longer used in the Order of Malta, and has no nobiliary grades. In this way it is comparable to numerous orders of merit around the world, including the Papal orders”.

But what do we find from the feeble of mind & those who deliberately practice deception via omission (which is more cunning than intelligent):Tired examples of rehashed shallow, fact-deficient, counterintelligence presuming (wrongly) to defend the indefensible, i.e. false revelation of the true & ultimate nature of the covert global power structure.

Are these reposts from Info Underground or Aryan Nation or something?

They are laughing at you from Aventine Hill, Via Condotti & Borgo Spirito Santo!

Keep pushing the Jesuit/SMOM/Vatican agenda...



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So we have known Masonic pro-Jesuit associates initiating a baseless yet multi-pronged attack on Eric Phelps & the research of other Jesuit/Vatican exposers, at the same time as CIA Media Manipulation Operation Mockingbird agent Alex Jones & his accomplice Texe Marrs, not to forget No-el "King of Israel (not) - good at swearing, not so good at refuting the truth of Rome's unparalleled influence" Ognir - & oh & let's not forget Jesuit asset, Rome-diversionist, "Zionists" rule the roost, SRI/UN New Age Aquarian Age-nt, Dr Alfred Webre.

A complete farce of an affair. Considering the fact that I emailed Eric to ask if there was any chance of an index for the pdf of the 1800+ pages of "Vatican Assassins III" & heard back that one would not be appearing any time soon as it would cost $6000 Federal Reserve notes. Amazing how people are so easy to believe that this man's work is all about diverting attention from Israeli power elites (which it isn't regardless). That good ol' Agency couldn't rustle up the bread to provide an index for the book that all the slackjawed "Jews run the world" hecklers. Wow, amazing piece of counterintelligence that. If they were so bumblingly ineffective then we should all call it a day.

Never mind. Keep stepping in the footsteps of known Jesuit Temporal Coadjutors people....


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JESUIT FOUNDER IGNATIUS OF LOYOLA WAS NOT A "CRYPTO-JEW"

[Taken from an email posted to a correspondent, but valid here, considering the other poster's emphasis on Jews. Added comments from Eric Phelps are mixed in]

Was Ignatius of Loyola a Jew? Absolutely not.

Loyola was anti-Jew. It was Loyola why made it so that no Jew could see a physician unless that Jew first submitted to a priest. Loyola hated the Jews as did the papacy at that time in history.

Let's take that most mainstream of mainstream sources, yet one that also often presents different contentions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Loyola

No mention of being a Jew, a crypto-Jew of Marrano Jew.

Now the Jesuits are the most likely contenders for putting out that Ignatius was a Jew, as such propaganda is a most well-used shield of the Jesuits & the Papacy.

This fiction about Ignatius of Loyola is promoted by the likes of "Jew Watch". Not "Sabbatean Watch" or "Labor Zionist Watch" - "Jew Watch". Who are these anti-Jewish fascists? Roman Catholics? Almost certainly, although possibly a Sabbatean. If they claim to be Protestant, then they are most likely Jesuit infiltrators.

Note that the Jesuits effectively banned Jews from the Order from 1593-1946] requiring at least five generations of Roman Catholic identity in order to guard against this.

Understand that the racial Jews involved in the New World Order conspiracy are Sabbateans. Sabbateans were (& are) excommunicated as Jews when it is discovered that they are followers of the 17th century Shabtai Tzvi (Sabbatai Zevi). They are anti-Judaism & anti-Christian (not to mention anti-Muslim) & heretics & crypto-heretics,. They are the original secular (atheistic) racial Jews. They are natural "bedfellows" with the Masonic Luciferian Jesuits & Vatican Cardinals.

They are controlled by the Jesuits since no later than the Order's creation of the Bavarian Illuminati. Remember Jacob Frank's godfather at his Roman Catholic baptism was the king of Poland, Augustus III. The Frankists were always tools of Rome.

Shimon Peres, President of Israel is a Sabbatean. They heavily control the CFR although this is overseen by Edward Cardinal Egan, Archbishop of New York (the "American pope" & top US Knight of Malta). Jacob Frank, another Jewish false Messiah & the leader of Sabbateans of the 18th-19th century was provably under Vatican control. Unarguable historical fact.

The Pope controls the CFR as it was set up by the first American Pope, James Cardinal Gibbons, in 1921. The Sabbateans in the CFR are Masonic Jewish Labor Zionists.

Listen to Rabbi Marvin S. Antelman, author of the two volumes of "To Eliminate the Opiate" (Vol.1 was published in 1974!) He is a bit ignorant of the Jesuits & the following article touches on this:

http://crashrecovery.org/antelman/


Barry Chamish explains a major part of the Vatican/Sabbatean relationship in the following piece:

http://www.redmoonrising.com/chamish/bc5.htm#January%2017


This also has useful info:

http://www.redmoonrising.com/chamish/Jul03.htm#July%2012


How to spot a Sabbatean? They are racially Jewish, apologists for the Jesuits & often have their children educated at Jesuit schools/universities. Of course many others may never mention the Jesuits & have kids going to other schools.

If I remember correctly I blieve that Antelman states in the above interview that Kabbalist, writer, Professor Gershom Scholem wrote a book (I don't think that it came out in English) revealing that he was a Sabbatean of generations of Sabbateans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gershom_Scholem

I will just state here that nor was Adam Weishaupt - who created the Bavarian Illuminati - a Jew, as is often asserted by "Jewish conspiracy" mythmakers.

The occult racial Jews (not true religious Jews), date back to the Babylonian captivity, half a millenium BC. They learnt what they know from their masters, the priesthood of the Babylonian Mystery Religion, which religion is thoroughly examined in Alexander Hislop's "Two Babylon's". That religion is now the Roman Catholic Church, the counterfeit & hijacker of Christianity & it still has the original patent on Satanism, the Sabbateans deferring to them accordingly.

The Talmud is completely Babylonian too. So this Babylonian attack on Torah-faithful Jews & Bible-believing Christians goes way back. In terms of its first printing, that was in Venice, Italy.

The Sabbateans founded so-called Reform Judaism & so-called Conservative Judaism, as counterfeit forms of Judaism, which spiritually they don't care for.

Hasidism developed a a response against Sabbateanism. Sabbateanism itself may have developed out of the Lurianic Kabbalah of Isaac Luria, who interestingly was born in 1534, the year that the Jesuits were founded, but not much proof of anything other than synchronicity.

Hasidism is also Jesuit-controlled as its top rabbis are Masonic, it promotes the damnable Talmud, and it contributed to the pope's Eurasian Jewish Hololcaust. Notice that the Rebbe was allowed to escape Europe to New York City! He worked with the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Eugenio Zolli, who after the war converted to Romanism. Barry Chamish erroneously defends the Orthodox, Hasidic Judaism and its top rabbis who are traitors, backing the anti-Missionizing law passed in Israel in about 1977.

So I most certainly disagree with the following assertions of your friend that the New World Order agenda is a Jewish conspiracy:

QUOTE
"They shove(d) the evils of the Vatican at everyone so the focus is
off of them. But even the Jesuits of the Vatican were founded by Jews and there
have been many "Closet" Jews. The first Jesuits were crypto-Jews. Ignatius
Loyola himself was a crypto-Jew of the Occult Cabala. A crypto-Jew is a Jew who
converts to another religion and outwardly embraces the new religion, while
secretly maintaining Jewish Kabbalah practices. As John Torell explains: "In
1491 San Ignacio de Loyola was born in the Basque province of Guipuzcoa, Spain.
His parents were Marranos and at the time of his birth the family was very
wealthy. As a young man he became a member of the Jewish Illuminati order in
Spain. As a cover for his crypto Jewish activities, he became very active as a
Roman Catholic."

Disagreed! Although he may well have had Kabbalic knowledge, though so to many Vatican Cardinals. Again its all Babylonian & the racial Jewish heretics have always been the servants of Mystery Babylon, now based in Rome.



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So what if some Jews helped start masonic lodges in America? Where does freemasonry come from? Knights Templar, an old catholic order. Who helped write the final degrees of freemasonry? Fredrick from Prussia and the Jesuits. 2TUFF destroys Madthumbs on Jew disinformationhttp://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MI...showtopic=17624One thing you will find with Jew bashers is that they will never try to get to the actual origins of the groups that they attack. If they did, they'd find a knight of malta or a roman catholic.

-Antisionist


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WHO CONTROLS THE N.W.O.? AN OVERVIEW SNAPSHOT TAKEN FROM:

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TROY SPACE -

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SELF-DESCRIPTION:

During my better moments I’m a:

reality researcher, alternative information distiller, life lover, love lifer, freedom fighter, justness demander, awareness striver, metaphorical mountain climber, label shirker, paradigm transcender, musical communicator, soul reacher, true believer…

INTENT & PURPOSE OF THIS REALITY RESEARCH RESOURCE:

The intention for this resource is to provide a central database on the internet for posting both original & sourced articles on the true inner workings of the Illuminati & the New World Order, including aspects which may or may not be at odds with each other.

Wherever possible “from the horse’s mouth” evidence, from mainstream & official sources around the globe are used for maximum credibility & verifiable authenticity. Such examples are not usually given the front-page headline prominence they deserve, but nonetheless much evidence of the links that facilitate the covert global power structure’s manipulation, direction & control is essentially “hidden in plain sight”.

It is the assessment of the creator & coordinator of this resource that the spiritual controllers behind the dark forces of the Illuminati are Luciferian & Satanic elements within the so-called Society of Jesus a.k.a. the Jesuits & the so-called Holy See of the Roman Catholic Church, oftentimes referred to as the Vatican. The current & 30th Jesuit Superior General is Adolfo Nicolás, who was elected on January 19, 2008. The Jesuit Superior General is traditionally nicknamed the Black Pope.

After much consideration of the evidence, it is the firm conviction of the coordinator of this resource, that this Rome-based nexus acts via major players & place-people within Papal & Royal knighthood orders, hierarchic Satanic orders & high-level Masonic rites, orders & obediances, the Frankist Sabbataian Papal-loyal Masonic Labor Zionists, & then through the elite policy management groups & intelligence, financial, military & political place-people to create what is referred to as the New World Order.

The mystical-religious impulse behind this Jesuit/Vatican-planned New World Order - contrary to the in-house rhetoric of the Papacy & their false opposition of the occult secret societies - is not that of Christ, but the spirit of Antichrist.

KEY JESUIT-DIRECTED ILLUMINATI NETWORK-CONTROLLED BODIES:

(NOTE: THERE MAY BE A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL LISTED WHO WOULD PREFER TO BE FREE OF THE MACHINATIONS OF THE JESUITS, THE VATICAN & THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA, BUT IS NEVERTHELESS A COG IN THE WHEEL. UNTIL THEY CHALLENGE ROME, MY LISTING STANDS).

* KEY CATHOLIC PAPAL-LOYAL ORDERS:

- The Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George (Franco-Neapolitan branch):

Grand Master of the Franco-Neapolitan branch: Prince Carlo, Duke of Castro.

Grand Prior of the Franco-Neapolitan branch: Albert Cardinal Vanhoye, S.J. - a French Jesuit.

Prior of the Franco-Neapolitan branch’s British & Irish Delegation: Cormac Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor, the Archbishop of Westminster.

- The Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George (Hispano-Neapolitan branch):

Grand Master of the Hispano-Neapolitan branch: Infante Carlos, Duke of Calabria;

Grand Prior of the Hispano-Neapolitan branch: Darío Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos from Colombia.

Vice President of the Deputation & President of the British Association of the Hispano-Neapolitan branch: Prince Rupert zu Loewenstein (also SMOM Bailiff Grand Cross of Honour & Devotion, former President of the British Association of the SMOM, Knight Commander with Star of the Papal Order of St Gregory, Knight of St John, Knight of St Januarius, Knight of St Stephen & the money-man to the Rolling Stones & Mick Jagger since 1971 - nicknamed “Rupie the Groupie”).

-The Sovereign Military Order of Malta:

SMOM Prince & Grand Master: Matthew Festing (also a Knight Grand Cross of Justice of the Franco-Neapolitan branch of the Constantinian Order).

SMOM Grand Prior of England: Fredrik Crichton-Stuart (also a Knight Commander of Justice of the Franco-Neapolitan branch of the Constantinian Order).

- The Order of the Holy Sepulchre:

Grand Master: John Patrick Cardinal Foley.

Grand Master Emeritus: Carlo Cardinal Furno.

Grand Prior: Michel Sabbah, former Latin Patriarch & Archbishop of Jerusalem (from 1987-2008).

- Opus Dei:

Prelate: Javier Echevarría Rodríguez.

* KEY ROYAL ORDERS:

- The Order of the Garter: The Sovereign of the Garter is Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom.

- The Most Venerable Order of St John: The OSJ’s Grand Prior is the Queen’s cousin, Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester.

- The Royal Order of Scotland: The Governor is Andrew Bruce, 11th Earl of Elgin.

* KEY OCCULT ORDERS & ORGANISATIONS:

- Skull & Bones,

- The various orders of the Ordo Templi Orientis, the Gnostic Catholic Church,

- the Martinists, Societas Rosicruciana, AMORC,

- The Temple of Set, the Theosophical Society,

- Universal Unity.
* KEY MASONIC PLACE-PEOPLE WITHIN THE VARIOUS RITES, ORDERS, OBEDIENCES & APPENDANT BODIES OF FREEMASONRY:

- the Rite of Memphis-Misraim: overtly a 99° system, but covertly going up to the rare 100° - the highest of the Masonic system - given out in Palermo, Sicily headquarters.

- Turkish Ottoman Freemasonry: a 7° system with two branches controlled by Fethullah Gülen & false anti-Mason Adnan Oktar a.k.a. Harun Yahya.

- 32° & 33° Scottish Rite Freemasonry: key Sovereign Grand Commanders include Ronald A. Seale, US Southern Jurisdiction Supreme Council 33° - Mother of the World - in Washington, DC; John William McNaughton (also a York Rite Mason & Shriner) US Northern Jurisdiction Supreme Council 33°; Rev. Canon Richard Tydeman, Supreme Council 33° for England & Wales; Corrado Ballaco Gabrieli, Italian Supreme Council 33°. There are Supreme Councils all throughout the world, among them are Italy, France, Spain, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Russia, Israel, Brazil, the Netherlands, Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Luxembourg, Romania & over 40 others.

- 11° York Rite Freemasonry: comes under the United Grand Lodge of England, overseen by the Duke of Kent & the Marquess of Northampton, respectively Grand Master & Pro-Grand Master of the UGLE.

- The Shriners: all Shriners until recently had to be of the Scottish Rite 33°, this is a Masonic-created & controlled body, all members must be “regular” Master Masons; Imperial Potentate of the Shriners of North America & highest-ranking Shriner in the world: Douglas E. Maxwell.
* KEY ROYAL & ARISTOCRATIC FREEMASONS:

- Prince Edward, Duke of Kent : Cousin to both Queen Elizabeth II & the Duke of Gloucester, the Duke of Kent is the “Most Worshipful” Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) & is also First Grand Principal of the Supreme Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of England & Grand Master of the Order of St Michael & St George. Note that his wife Katharine, Duchess of Kent converted to Roman Catholicism in 1994, as did their son Lord Nicholas Windsor in 2001, who then went on to get married in the Vatican in 2006.

- Spencer Compton, 7th Marquess of Northampton: The UGLE Pro [Deputy] Grand Master & is also the Pro [Deputy] First Grand Principal of the Supreme Grand Chapter of Royal Arch Masons of England.

- Prince Michael of Kent: The Duke of Kent’s brother, Prince Michael is the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Mark Master Masons. His wife, Princess Michael of Kent, has always been a Roman Catholic & is a Dame Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of the (Papal-loyal) SMOM, within the Order’s British Association. Princess Michael is also the senior Dame (Dame Grand Cross of Justice) of the British and Irish Delegation of the Franco-Neapolitan branch of the (Papal-loyal) Constantinian Order.

* KEY ELITE POLICY MANAGEMENT GROUPS & ELITE GATHERING:

- The Pilgrims Society (Patron: Queen Elizabeth II; President: Lord Inge),

- The Bilderberg Group (Chairman: Étienne [Viscount] Davignon),

- Chatham House/the Royal Institute of International Affairs (Chairman: DeAnne Julius),

- The Council on Foreign Relations (The CFR; based in New York City; President: Richard N. Haass),

- The Trilateral Commission (The TC’s three current chairmen: Joseph Nye [also an active Bilderberger], Jesuit-educated Peter Sutherland & Yotaro Kobayashi),

- The RAND Corporation (President & CEO: James Thompson [CFR member]),

- The Group of Thirty (G30; Chairman of the Board of Trustees: Paul Volcker, Trilateral Commission founder & member),

- The Peterson Institute for International Economics (Chairman: Peter G. Peterson; also chairman of the CFR),

- JPMorgan Chase’s International Council (Chairman: George P. Schultz),

- The European Round Table of Industrialists (Chairman: Jorma Ollila, Commander of the Order of Orange-Nassau),

- The Bohemian Club (Bohemian Grove, California).

* KEY INTERNATIONALIST GEO-POLITICAL & ECONOMIC/POLITICAL ORGANISATIONS:

- The United Nations (The UN; trojan-horse Rome-created & controlled One World Government based in New York City) & associated non-governmental organisations (the Paris-based UNESCO, the Geneva, Switzerland-based WHO, et al),

- The European Union (The EU; mostly based in Brussels, Belgium & Strasbourg, Alsace, France;

- The European Council (The EU’s highest political body. Presidency of the Council of the European Union rotates every six months among member states’ national governments with a nominated national minister),

- The European Parliament (The EU’s only directly elected parliamentary institution. President of the European Parliament: Hans-Gert Pöttering),

- The European Commission (The EU’s executive branch; the President of the European Commission is Jesuit-educated José Manuel Barroso),

- The Security & Prosperity Partnership (trojan-horse North American Union),

- Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC).

* KEY INTERNATIONALIST FINANCIAL ORGANISATIONS:

- The Bank for International Settlements (The BIS is based in Basel, Switzerland; Chairman of the Board of Directors: Jean-Pierre Roth; also Chairman of the Governing Board of the Swiss National Bank),

- Basel Committee on Banking Supervision (BIS/Group of Ten [G10] nations sub-committee; Chairman: Nout Wellink, Knight of the Order of the Netherlands Lion),

- The International Monetary Fund (The IMF is based in Washington, DC; Managing Director: Dominique Strauss-Kahn of the Socialist International-alligned Socialist Party (France)),

_ The World Bank (Washington, DC) & World Bank Group (President: Robert Zoellick),

- The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD; Secretary-General: José Ángel Gurría of the Socialist International-alligned Institutional Revolutionary Party),

Also worth noting are the internationalist bankers’ national & transnational central banks:

- The European Central Bank (Frankfurt, Germany; President: Jean-Claude Trichet),

- The Federal Reserve System (Washington, DC; Chairman of the Board of Governors: Ben Bernanke),

- The Bank of England (in the City of London within the metropolis of London; Governor: Mervyn King),

- & their interest-charging counterparts in virtually every country.

* KEY INTERNATIONALIST MILITARY ORGANISATIONS & PRIVATE MILITARY MERCENARY CONTRACTOR ORGANISATIONS:

- NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation - whose troops heavily comprise the UN “peacekeeping” forces; Secretary General: Jaap de Hoop Scheffer),

- Erik Prince’s Blackwater Worldwide (Knights of Malta-controlled mercenary army, based in Moyock, the Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina - more troops in Iraq than those sent by the United States Government/Private Corporation).

NOTE: There are many other organisations & individuals that I could list but these will suffice to give an overview of the covert global power structure at this point in time.

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SPAM QUERY TO ANDRE & REPLY TO DAN

Andre:

Who's being addressed with this spam remark?

Both "tru2u" & myself - who have completely different contentions as to the nature of the higher echelons of the pyramid & have posted the most entries here recently - have been providing each other & any interested readers with the kind of detailed references & resources for them to make up their own minds. Anything less is a disservice to the truth.

More than one abusive entry-posting by "tru2u" (now removed but in quote boxes in a couple of my entries) was freely allowed in to your forum (I presume its yours), but truly dot-connecting information that has been quite painstaking to research & compile & is necessary as a counterbalance to his (I would assert only partially correct) rather lengthy posts? (& I acknowledge his removal of it & subsequent remarks, if still a little unimpressed).

Presumably this is the best place at this forum to place such vital info? If some of it has appeared before in private correspondence (which is hardly the best arena for understanding-enhancing info to be given a broad airing) or if some of it has appeared before at my blog (some very hard to collate material, that clearly a lot of the people at places like this forum would otherwise be oblivious of & would do well to consider the connections & spheres of influence presented) then how is this in anyway off topic or unnecessary?

Eric Phelps basic thesis, contentions, evidences, proofs & personal character has been under attack here by people who haven't spent any serious amount of time or effort looking into the validity of his immense research.

Up till recently it has been a case of most putting their fingers in their ears & going "No! No! No"! because it doesn't correspond with their very deeply entrenched worldview.

In response to Daniel Tatman, who I have had the pleasure of communicating with on a number of prior ocassions, though disagree with him on many points, especially much of Tsarion & Maxwell's stuff that I know that he's fond of (though I will point out that I have listened to both including all of MT's Red Ice interviews, but let's not get too off-topic here in this already lengthy reply lest any of us get charged with spamming once more - ;D):

The point here is that the RCC was a perversion of Christianity & Judaism. I know that you've got a very pro-Mystery schools view, so we will disagree on the merits & origins of the occult paths & their ultimate roots. Regardless, I don't think that you'd disagree that the evidence supports the RCC being a Satanic, Luciferian abomination/perversion of the message, life & agenda of Jesus at the very least? Its the polar opposite.

Also: I'd like to point out that Craig's use of Doc Marquis was in "quotes" of "tru2u"s entry, who actually used the diagram that I think your referring to when you mention Marquis. If so, then Craig is critiquing this, not endorsing it.

And Andre, I remember a piece that I believe you wrote at Myspace a couple of years ago perhaps, that if I'm not conflating two different pieces you wrote, was an interview with yourself that fingered the Jesuits as strongly as the Israeli occult elite.

Feel free to comment on any of the facts presented above & refute or give credence to whatever you like. I know for a fact that nobody apart from Craig has studied this material here.

And more thing to Dan: The benefit of names, connections & orders being analysed & presented in this manner lets us know how this totalitarian agenda is being enacted, it also provides confirmation as to why. So its not just about the who. The likes of David "Diversion" Icke will rattle off the usual vague nonsense about the top of the pyramid, leaving most people oblivious to the whole Counter-Reformation aspect of the New World Order agenda & of Rome's unparalleled occult & temporal influence. It also makes it a lot easier for others who wish to test the veracity of the thesis of the Vatican/Jesuit expose researchers.

This vague Rothschilds/Rockefellers/Windsors thing is only a partial truth, usually compounded in its muddying by the likes of Jones referring vaguely to European aristocratic families & Icke to some completely fictitious Pindar/Marquis de Libereau & Watt to some spurious "lazy boys" nonsense. What are the Orders that these European aristocratic elites operate through (above & running through the intelligence services & in parallel with higher-level Masonry)? Why they are the Papal, Royal & Catholic knighthood orders, many of which I name above along with many of their interconnections!

The time for gatekeeping this info is over & needs to be studied & understood. It's either that or run around like a bunch of Profane idiots spouting the Counterintelligence Party Line.

If the intelligence services were as good as we think they are at manipulating our minds does anyone seriously think that this Jesuit/Vatican info wouldn't be everywhere to divert attention from the Sabbataean Labor Zionists?

I can find a range of so-called "Zionist" expose info from Borders or Amazon, but material exposing Rome is quite far & few between. Not exactly the most effective of counterintelligence projects (which of course its not) then is it?

That's just the next base beyond the elite policy management groups (CFR, Bildereberg, etc) & Rockefellers thesis of Jones & the John Birch Society. Try to go beyond that & yes you will find corrupt Israeli elites with an occult agenda at their highest levels (so too with the corrupt Arab elites, but that starts to mess with oversimplified worldviews). Try to go beyond THAT & you have David Icke's shape-shifting reptilians to divert your eyes away from the real power players that he & others will only pay the slightest lip service too: the Jesuits, the Vatican, the Knighthood Orders & the actual high-level Masonic rites & those individuals heading them. There is still much more of these names & connections that I have mentioned but haven't gone into more detail above, such as the OTO, Temple of Set & others above.

I think that its disingenuous though for anyone to suggest that this is redundant info.

Thanks -

Troy


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Okay

So:

A/

You can't refute on a point-by-point basis the material presented by Eric, Craig, myself or any other parties who have been spending valuable moments of our lives working on the hard labours of our research & sharing the fruits thereof (or else you presumably would do so instead of "contributing" these thick-as-mince jibes)?

B/

You think that John Coleman is a "minor point" in the world of New World Order conspiracy researchers, authors, lecturers & interviewees? Whether you agree or disagree with his agenda & the specifics of his contentions, it betrays your ignorance to think that anyone even close to being well-versed in NWO research arena would think so.

C/

You really think that it's some incredible psy-op project that those exposing Rome as the spiritual control base of the NWO are "diverting" the "truth" "movement"?

Wake up & smell the cocoa, sunshine!

We are surrounded by a sea of Roman Catholics, who account for 1/6th of the planet's population.

In the witting pro-NWO arena we find Romanist apologists & agents, including pro-Papal Jews such as Shimon Peres, Rabbis Waxman & Rosen & inter-religious leaders like Gary Krupp.

Roman Catholics in the conspiracy world run the gamut from authors like Michael Collins Piper to forum-gatekeepers like Ognir.

And then to cut through the web of deceit we have to contend with the spin of Jewish converts to Catholicism (like Ben Freedman), who are traitors to their own people & faith, as are the pro-Papal Arab elites).

All of whom give a greatly distorted half-truth (& thus half-lie) of the true nature of covert global power structure.

The works of authors "It's all controlled by the Zionists" authors like David Duke's works can be found everywhere, sells by th thousands at Amazon, et al. Eric Phelps' "Vatican Assassins" is by contrast only available in small company, mail order only - & even then only in CD-ROM form. Even someone like myself, who has as much respect for Eric's work as anyone, haven't been able to afford one of the rare 100-only copies of his 1800+ page book in paper & by the time I might be able to it will most likely be sold out.

I've asked him when he's going to provide an index for it, as its so hard to find stuff in such a big book, especially in pdf form. He can't afford the $6000 Federal Reserve notes to get one done.

Real big CIA operation isn't it then, wonderloaf?

So effective at stemming the tide of "truth" about how the "Zionists" are all-powerful. Yes the Masonic & Papal & Royal Knighthood Order-controlled Labor Zionists are powerful, but not as powerful as those who control them from London & Rome.

But that's alright my friend. Don't look past AIPAC, the Rothschilds & Shimon Peres (just made a Knight of Sts Michael & George by Queen Elizabeth II, that Papal Dame). Whatever you do: Don't look at the stringpullers behind them!

Go back to bed "truthseekers", your gatekeepers are thinking for you...

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