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Friday, July 30, 2010

Economic Information

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20249

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13559

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5658


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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=162212.25;wap2

debinlcfl:
Brilliant Thread. Thank you for posting Geolibertarian.

Geolibertarian:
Quote from: Geolibertarian on March 23, 2010, 06:27:23 PM

When I and others say that ruling-class oligarchs are literally waging economic “war” against us, that’s not hyperbole, but a mere acknowledgement of cold, harsh reality.

To fully understand what I mean, consider the following six-part report by David DeGraw:

Some will probably disagree with this, but I feel compelled to mention that conservative candidates such as Rand Paul are being targeted by the neocon attack machine in spite of their Austrian School views on economics, not because of them. It is said candidates' anti-neocon views on civil liberties and foreign policy matters that has so enraged -- and so evoked the political wrath of -- the establishment Right.

Austrian School ideologues and commentators routinely suggest or imply that we must sheepishly let the banker-engineered depression simply "run its course," and that to politically interfere in any way with the so-called "corrections" that this orchestrated collapse is imposing on our economy -- an example of such interference being Webster Tarpley’s proposal to “stop all foreclosures on primary residences, businesses, and farms for five years or the duration of the depression” -- would be to offend the almighty god of "market forces." After reading that six-part report by David DeGraw, I can only hope that the hardcore “conservatives” and right-leaning “libertarians” in this forum understand now (if you didn't beforehand) why I regard this as nothing more than a euphemistic way of saying that we must -- in the name of “liberty” and of “living within our means” -- let the ruling elite's economic war against us run its course.

I realize that not everyone online who has adopted this insane view as his or her own necessarily has bad intentions. Most, in fact, seem to have good intentions. But as I'm sure all readers will agree, good intentions do not justify a bad approach -- or what, in the case of the let-everything-collapse-and-we’ll-call-it-a-mere-“correction” Austrian School, is a ridiculously foolish and utterly self-defeating approach.

Bottom line: beware of anyone who insists that the only way to “roast” the “pig” (metaphorically speaking) is to let the “house” we call America be “burned down” by an otherwise solvable economic crisis. Whether that person realizes it or not, he is parroting a false belief that the very plutocrats he professes to oppose want us to accept as divine gospel.

Geolibertarian:
Quote from: Geolibertarian on March 18, 2010, 10:04:14 AM

In 2003, hundreds of thousands in the U.S. alone protested against the Iraq war before it had even started, yet the war was launched anyway.

Upon reading the following excerpt, most readers will likely have a much better understanding as to the reason why....

It has long been fashionable among partisan hacks in the corporate whore “news” media to suggest or imply that, no matter how unpopular the law or policy in question is, political protesters are wrong to impugn the motives of the U.S. politicians responsible for that law or policy, since they (the politicians) were democratically “elected,” and are hence merely exercising the will of “the people.”

Whenever an establishment shill or media talking head resorts to this twisted line of reasoning, readers would be well advised to remember the following quote:

“The ‘people = government’ doctrine is equivalent to political infantilism—an agreement to pretend that the citizen’s wishes animate each restriction or exaction inflicted upon him. This doctrine essentially makes masochism the driving force of political life—assuming that if government is beating the citizens, they must want to be beaten, and thus they have no right to complain.

“The notion that ‘the people are the government’ is one of the biggest slanders that the average citizen will endure in his lifetime. To presume that any specific private citizen must be held responsible for all the cabals and conspiracies engaged in by all the bureaucrats and politicians is absurd. This is the political version of the doctrine of original sin; it assumes that a person is born politically damned with the weight of all of the past and future sins of his government upon his head. The notion that ‘you are the government’ is simply a way to shift the guilt for every crime by the government onto every victim of government. This makes as little sense as holding each ‘widow and orphan’ owner of a single share of a company’s stock fully liable for crimes secretly committed by the corporate management and holding the actual corporate directors blameless, since they merely followed the unspoken will of individual shareholders.”
-- James Bovard, Freedom In Chains, p. 103


Mr. Bovard is, of course, correct in saying we must not blame “the people” for crimes committed by a corrupt government. At the same time, however, we must recognize that it’s not actually government itself that is waging literal “war” against us, but rather the criminal, parasitic, ruling-class oligarchs who’ve hijacked that government; and that the solution, therefore, is not to mindlessly throw the baby out with the bathwater (as anarcho-capitalists from the Austrian School would have us do under the false guise of “liberty”), but to reclaim from these oligarchs our rightful control over our own government.

And, as I explained earlier in this thread, the only way to do that is to unite across both party and ideological lines at the grassroots level for the purpose of exerting AGGRESSIVE, NON-STOP, ROUND-THE-CLOCK PRESSURE on Congress (and, when applicable, our state legislators) to implement urgently-needed and long-overdue public policy reforms.

But this will never -- I repeat, never -- happen until and unless those of us who are already awake inspire a critical mass of our fellow countrymen to

* break out of the television/cell phone-induced state of “parallel play” they’ve long been in; and

* break free from their conditioned state of “learned helplessness” by simply realizing that there are FAR more of “us” than there are of “them,” and that the real power thus lies not with the tiny handful of filthy-rich, power-obsessed plutocrats attempting to enslave us all, but with We the People.



If we fail to do this, then “IMF riots” are almost certain to erupt in the not-too-distant future. And that, of course, is the last thing we need, since all that will amount to is scores of rightfully enraged citizens painting bullseyes on themselves and saying (in effect) to NorthCom and to Homeland “Security” goons: "Hey guys! You know those 'crowd control' weapons you've been just itching to play with? Well, here's a nice big target for ya!"

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050708nonlethalweapons
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10564
http://www.infowars.net/articles/february2008/270208sound.htm
http://www.infowars.net/articles/october2008/081008TASER.htm

We also don’t need a bloody civil war -- particularly since this would, at minimum, give the ruling elite the excuse they so desperately want to officially suspend our Constitution and declare all-out martial law (goodbye America, hello Nazi Germany!), and perhaps even the excuse they need to employ the use of neutron bombs and/or bio-weapons. (The mid-20th century is long gone, and firearms are simply no match for the sort of anti-personnel weaponry that the Dr. Strangeloves of the world now have at their disposal.)

What we do need are (a) a mass awakening both to who our real enemies are and to how and why they’re waging war on us, and (b) a peaceful yet aggressive political counteroffensive by an informed, united and “mad as hell” citizenry against our would-be slavemasters.

With the way things are going, anything short of that will inevitably result in a hellish new Dark Ages.

The people of Iceland proved just how effective going on the political counteroffensive can be, if done correctly. It is therefore up to us to not only follow their lead, but to take what they did to the next level by insisting not merely on the repeal or repudiation of what we don’t want, but on the immediate implementation of what we do want. (Hence the urgently-needed “reform measures” I listed at the start of this thread.)

“These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.”
-- Thomas Paine


Geolibertarian:
Quote from: Geolibertarian on March 24, 2010, 01:10:57 PM

If we fail to do this, then “IMF riots” are almost certain to erupt in the not-too-distant future. And that, of course, is the last thing we need, since all that will amount to is scores of rightfully enraged citizens painting bullseyes on themselves and saying (in effect) to NorthCom and to Homeland “Security” goons: "Hey guys! You know those 'crowd control' weapons you've been just itching to play with? Well, here's a nice big target for ya!"

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050708nonlethalweapons
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10564
http://www.infowars.net/articles/february2008/270208sound.htm
http://www.infowars.net/articles/october2008/081008TASER.htm

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