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I think you've got the wrong idea about Icke. He's never denied the power of the Vatican or the Jesuits, I just think he's been misled as to their absolute power. He's said in his books that the Jesuits are a secret society that run the Vatican, but he seems unaware that they are the biggest secret society. Other than that, his research is spot on.From the Biggest Secret:

'The Jesuits and the Knights of Malta are esoteric secret societies which hoard and use the secret knowledge while outwardly claiming to be Roman Catholic and 'Christian'. They are doing exactly the same as the Templars did at the time of the Crusades and together they control, with the higher levels of Freemasonry, the Vatican, the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church.''The Roman Catholic Church is the epitome of hypocrisy and deeply, deeply sick. As this book has explained, it was the creation of the Babylonian Brotherhood from the start, back at the time of the Roman Empire. The Roman Catholic Jesuit movement is an important vehicle for the manipulation of the global conspiracy. Like the Knights of Malta, who help to control the Vatican, the Jesuit hierarchy does not even believe in Christianity! That's just a front. The whole conspiracy is a lot of masks, mirrors and smokescreens. The Jesuits, the Knights of Malta, and the Roman Catholic hierarchy are part of the Babylonian Brotherhood.'



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The Black Pope's United Nations: Jesuit Control of the UN through their Council on Foreign RelationsThe Jesuits through the Archbishop of New York created the Council on Foreign Relations in 1921. The Jesuits through their First World War punished Protestant Germany through their tool apostate Presbyterian Woodrow Wilson and his Fourteen Points. they appeared to want to establish world governance through League of Nations but fomented the rest of their Second Thirty Years War bringing their Roman Catholic Freemason military dictator Adolf Hitler to power to further punish Germany for her pro- Protestant Reformation history and its champion Martin Luther. Afterwards they set up their Luciferian United Nations secretly controlled by the Black Pope.

Without the CFR there would be no United Nations. The majority of the U.S. delegation who signed the UN charter were CFR members. The land on which the UN building stands is owned by the Masonic Illuminist Rockefellers.The oil canvas painting found in the room where the UN Security Council meets shows the Jesuit control of the organization. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ouncil_2005.jpg According to http://www.un.org/cyberschoolbus/untour/subsec.htm "A central feature of the Security Council Chamber is the oil canvas mural painted by the Norwegian artist Per Krogh. It depicts a [Masonic] phoenix rising from its ashes, as a symbol of the world being rebuilt after the Second World War. Above the dark sinister colours at the bottom different images in bright colours symbolizing the hope for a better future are depicted. Equality is symbolized by a group of people weighing out grain for all to share." [Universal equality and Socialist-Communism is Jesuit-the prime example is the Paraguayan Reductions]Also notice the white horse on the right of the painting which is found on the CFR symbol

Symbol of the CFR http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/horse.gif http://www.un.org/cyberschoolbus/untour/subswo.htm http://www.un.org/av/photo/subjects/art.htm

"Let Us Beat Our Swords Into Plowshares" http://www.un.org/av/photo/subjects/images/161127.jpg "Bronze sculpture created by Soviet artist Evgeny Vuchetich and presented to the United Nations in December 1959 by the [Communist] Government of the USSR. The sculpture depicts the figure of a man holding a hammer aloft in one hand, and a sword in the other, which he is making into a ploughshare. It is meant to symbolize man's desire to put an end to war and to convert the means of destruction into creative tools for the benefit of mankind. The sculpture is located in the North Garden of UN Headquarters.The UN as its master Satan twists and subtracts from the scriptures omitting the first part of Isaiah 2:4 putting it in the wrong context.Isaiah 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.The Lord Jesus Christ must return and he shall judge among the nations and shall rebuke many people before “they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.” The UN cannot bring world peace and never will. "Non-Violence"http://www.un.org/av/photo/subjects/images/182966.jpg The UN advocates total disarmament as does the U.S. Jesuit Conference"Mother and Child"This is an example of the Jesuit control of the UN. It is a stylized image of Semiramis/Isis/Venus/ the Catholic Mary and Nimrod/Horus/Christ of Romanism. It was sculpted by Italian Communist Roman Catholic Giacomo Lanzu who was a personal friend of Papal Antichrist John XXIII.http://www.un.org/av/photo/subjects/images/207579.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giacomo_Manz%C3%B9 Late Papal Antichrist JPII Visited the UN Oct. 6 1995http://www.un.org/News/Papal/photos.html Photo of JPII and Knight of Malta Boutros Boutros-Ghali then UN Secretary-Generalhttp://www.un.org/News/Papal/pope-1.gif http://www.un.org/Overview/SG/sg6bio.html

Boutros Boutros-Ghali was Vice President of the Socialist International, from 1974 to 1977, he was a member of the Central Committee and Political Bureau of the Arab Socialist Union, "has been decorated with the Sovereign Military Order of Malta" and received an honorary degree from the Jesuit Georgetown School of Foreign Service in May 1994. http://www.un.org/News/Papal/pope-4.gif Notice only JPII is dressed in white.http://www.un.org/News/Papal/pope-5.gif JPII speaking at the 50th session of his master's UN General Assemblyhttp://www.un.org/News/Papal/pope-5.gif

Caption: [Pedophile] Pope JOHN PAUL II (in white robe) listens to the United Nations International School Choir. On the left is [SMOM] Secretary-General Boutros BOUTROS-GHALI and on the right is Archbishop Rennato Raffaele MARTINO, Permanent Observer of the [Un] Holy See to the United Nations.

-Brother Nicholas N. Rivera




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JagDRS: Since I understand some of underlying principals, some of this story makes sense.Its a similar effect be it audio or video in comparing analog and digital. Life is flowing and continuous, it does not occur in discrete, chopped up samples. Same thing with measuring the passage of life, it's continuous, it does not occur in precise, quartz/digital 1 second pulses. Can a reasonable facsimile be created in playing back a series of chopped up samples? Undoubtedly so, no matter how one may define "reasonable facsimile", but as already said, when it comes to high fidelity, analog comes off as being a lot closer to the real thing.......something about an old analog commercial "is it live or is it memorex?" comes to mind. Recordings of life would seem to follow. Whether it be capturing a snippet of sound or a snippet of sight, it would seem to reason that an anolog record of such constitutes a tiny but nonetheless genuine impression of the actual life-energy of the subject matter. Analog photography in general and Kirlian Photography in specific seem to be profound examples. Just throwing an analogy that just occured to me this moment (pardon the pun) , think of Creator as analog and Creator's cast-down malcontent impersonator as digital...... and in the back of my mind I'm also wondering about the prohibition of graven images be they analog or digital As to the testing methodology in the linked article, it certainly provides some food for thought but it also generated many more questions for me than it answered. A few ways came to mind that may possibly allow the premise of such a test, and it's subsequent results, to be more legit and more meaningful. Why would a test that is trying to gauge/prove the the effects of a particular sound expose one group to ten minutes of silence and the other to a ten minutes of said particular sound (Mozart)? I've often heard it said, especially of people who've lost one of their senses, that other senses become more sensitive as a result. Ergo, someone - like a person without sound for ten minutes (effectively deaf for 10 minutes), would experience a sharpening of their other senses, such as sight and touch. Around these parts, wild game hunting is still popular. I've often read expert gamesmen suggest that to have the best chance of identifying the presence of game in settings that do not lend well to visual location (woods, trees, briars and other visual obstructions), closing both eyese will allow the sense of hearing to become heightened. So, this came across as an iregularity while reading the article. For this reason, it does not make sense the silent testees did not score as well in seeing / recognizing the white shape on white background. Secondly, the article as provided does not provide ample detail to naturally reach the conclusion suggested. It may be a valid conclusion, but it's not one I reached from having read the article's limited explanation of the testing.

If I really wanted to conclusively show the positive effects of Mozart, I would have exposed the second control group to all kinds of various ten-minute-samples of sound. For instance, how about one group listening to 10 minutes of Iron Maiden while the other group listens to Mozart? Had I been conducting such a test, I would have included numerous and various combinations with the two test groups. I possibly would have included Rieu, or Bach or other one of many other classical greats as the sample to compare results against Mozart. Again, not dis'ing the conclusion, just scratching my head as to how it was arrived at. Lastly, maybe I'm exhibiting a touch of MC-Conspiracy-On-The-Brain, but upon reading the passage describing the use of headphones during the test immediately caused me to realize that the test results could have been contrived IE> through the use of Binaural Beats. Not saying they were contrived, but if the testers had such an agenda, the technology has certainly been available for many years to facilitate an agenda.