Tuesday, January 17, 2006

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From http://prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=76&STARTPAGE=24&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear


I think this forum is important since it outlines the real connection between Planned Parenthood, the Nazis, and the KKK. The connection is that all groups believe in dehumanization whether it's denying the unborn its humanity or considers different groups of people less equal than any other man. Margaret Sanger not only went to a KKK meeting, but she was into the occult and Rosicurcianism as confirmed by authors Dr. Cathy Burns and Dr. Stan Monolieth. She was in the New Age group called Unity. Also, it's a historical fact that many people in Sanger's early Planned Parenthood group were racists and eugenicists like Rudin, Lothrod Stoddard and Dr. Knopf. Slavery had something to do with the KKK since the KKK wanted black people to people under the same condition as slavery if necessary. They also supported discrimination against blacks through intimidation, murder, and support of the Black Codes (which had anti-gun laws in them to prevent blacks from defended themselves against real KKK domestic terrorists). Margaret Sanger support the Plan for Peace in the early 1900's that called for segregation of what she deemed the "unfit."

This is what many racists want and that's another connection between Margaret Sanger and the KKK. Another link between Sanger and Hitler were their obsession with the occult and the New Age. Both people practiced the occult and Hitler was a member in the Thule and Vril Society. So as for Sanger, it's bigger than she going into a KKK meeting, but she has racists on her staff, she accepted the dehumanization of the unborn, and she believed in the occult, which is one easily analysis to decipher the connection between the KKK, Planned Parenthood, and the Nazis. Not to mention that she lied and said that black population growth was out of control in the early 1900's when the black population was 12-14% from 1900-today. She used that lie to promote the Negro Project. So, I'm not dropping the black slavery comparisions to Planned Murderhood. From the beginning, Planned Murderhood had a controversial start. I forgot something also. Adolf Hitler supported abortion and I've got his quotes and other scholars' words to back myself up. Hitler only opposed abortion if was done to "Aryan" women as well.

Here's more links on this connection:

www.prolifeamerica.com/

www.margaretsanger.blogspot.com/

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/mikeadams/2004/09/23/13098.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45041

http://groups.msn.com/InTheHeartsOfJesusandMary/margaretsangerofplannedparenthood.msnw

www.uffl.org/vol%209/hunt9.pdf.

www.uffl.org/vol%207/hunt7.pdf

www.abort73.com/HTML/I-I-1-crimes.html

By TruthSeeker24 (Timothy)




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Another response to someone on eugenics, abortion, slavery, etc.

RePit: Margaret Sanger was into Eugenics.


Response: Yes, authors agree to that indeed.


RePit: Now cast your mind back to the old days when Marge lived. If someone went around touting eugenics, they would perk interest in some. "An interesting idea...." would be a typical response. Most would not bat an eyelid at the concept. Of course now it is a different story. You would be on the front page (and not in a good way) for merely mentioning such a thing.


Response: Just because evils exist, doesn't justify them in the past. Killing people is immoral now and was immoral back then. I follow ethical fundamentalism where some concept dealing with ethics are fixed and ought to be embraced as much as possible in the past and now. Many people back in the early 20th century hated eugenics like Dr. Chesterman. He would say that "this is evil propaganda." Just because many prominent figures supported it back then, doesn't justify it. Evil is evil. Many people centuries ago abhor the dehumanization of the poor, minorities, and other people. This was done by many creeds. For example, many CHristians abhored the excesses of the Inquisition centuries ago. Not to mention that many Christians in the past support the value of man, the opposition any oppression, and equal love given unto all men (i.e. Love thy neighbor as theyself), so there was firm opposition by some people of the evils of the past.

RePit: Similarily slavery. Back to the good old days again. The wealthy had negro slaves to do unpopular chores. Most of the slaves were looked after and treated well. Once again - for the time no one would think that out of the ordinary. It was common practice. But alas today, you would be condemmed for keeping a slave - no matter how well you treat your slave. Today we say slavery is wrong. Do you condemn all those in the past who had slaves? What great figures in history had slaves? Does the fact they kept slaves make their efforts less worthy to you?I can think of many other examples.It is unfair to judge those in the past in the context of today. They should be judged in the context of the time in which they lived.

Response: Slavery in America was an abomination and I'm glad that it was abhored. Slavery is similar to the oppression against the unborn indeed. As for the rest of your comments, I strongly disagree with you. I'm black, so I know the history of slavery. In the great Disapora of our people millions died in the ALtantic Ocean in their unjust voyage to America. We lost much of our culture and livelihood. Families were split up. All slaves were paid no money for their labor. People were assaulted and killed. This wasn't just at all. Many slaves were treated less harshly than others, but it is immoral to kidnap another man from their homeland to another land. I don't believe that most slaves were treated well at all. Most slave owners did consider their slaves as inferior or less human than they were though. It is wrong to brutally displace family to deny men their citizenship.

It is also wrong to decieve slaves into thinking that they had no advanced history (i.e. Timbuktu, Cush, Songhai, Mali, Ghana, African Kings and Queens, etc.) and that they were inferior to white people. I comdemn all people who done evil. The American form of slavery was evil. I condemn people equally in the past who done the Inquistion, unjustly killed people in the Crusades, done rape, done abortion, etc. as being immoral. Just because great figures owned slaves, doesn't make it right or just. Moral absolutes existed in the past, so they must take precedent above the evil in the past. Accountability must take hold in the evil of people in the past as well. If people in the past have no accountability, then people in the past can almost be justified in doing almost anything that they wanted to do. They are accountable for their mistakes.

Just like people today are equally accountable for our mistakes. I just people not in the context of the past, but in the context of legitimate ethical principles. Also, you forgotten that back then, people opposed slavery just as vigorious as we are today like John Quincy Adams, John Jay, Benjamin Franklin, pastors, laborers, etc. Abolition groups were formed to try to stop it and many states in the late 1700's and early 1800's like Vermont banned it. We can't discount that past as well. I can think of other examples as well. Today, according to LEARN and other pro-life groups, the vast majority of Planned Parenthood abortion clinics are in minority neigbhorhoods. The black birthrate is stagnant in America. To this day, Planned Parenthood has had a negative origin. Margaret Sanger not only worked with known racists (plus went into a KKK rally in 1926), but she was into the occult (and was an drug addict according to Grant's book Killer Angel). As long as I have breath in my lungs, I will defend life, family, and truth.

By TruthSeeker24 (Timothy)

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