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The Investigative Journal Host: Greg Szymanski Radio Broadcast of Tuesday, May 16, 2006:Greg hosted a two-hour debate between authors,
Eric Jon Phelps and MichaelCollins Piper.
Phelps believes the Jesuits are the true controllers of theNew World Order and Piper believes it is the Zionists. Don't miss this interview as two heavyweights discuss the takeover ofAmerica, differing on who are the real perpetrators.
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http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg/0605/20060516_Tue_Greg1.mp3
Hour 2
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg/0605/20060516_Tue_Greg2.mp3
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Dear Brethren and Friends,
Greg Szymanski is hosting a debate between me and Michael Collins Piper today from 2-4pm EST. If unable to listen, it will be archived on Greg's site. www.thearticbeacon.comIt took me a week to read his most informative book, Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy. I learned much and the book is loaded with many significant facts.Mr. Piper contends it was the Mossad that was the driving force behind the assassination. Though the Mossad had motive and was indeed involved in the assassination, it was the Vatican's Jesuits that oversaw the assassination: the Mossad was one of their many factions overseen by CIA Counterintelligence chief, James Jesus Angleton. Mr. Piper rightly portrays Angleton as the great personage manipulating events behind the assassination both before and after. But Piper wrongly states that Angleton was a creature of the Mossad, its minion in the CIA.Final Judgment's great flaws are the following:
1. No mention is ever made of the Council on Foreign Relations in the body of his thesis. Only one mention is made of the CFR when critiquing a book in one of his appendixes.
2. No mention is ever made of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM). This is a critical mistake in that Angleton was a SMOM along with William F. Buckley, Jr., John McCone, Clay Shaw, Henry Luce and Alexander Haig, Jr., (whose brother Francis is a Jesuit) all of whom are named in FJ.
3. No mention is made of the secret meeting between all the players in the assassination at Clint Murchison's mansion on the night before the murder. Those in attendance were J. Edgar Hoover, John McCloy, Carlos Marcello, Lyndon Johnson and, among others, Jack Ruby. What I learned from FJ was that JFK was against Israel's development of nuclear weapons and thus was an enemy of Masonic Jewish Zionist David Ben-Gurion. (Remember Revisionist Zionist Vladimir Jabotinsky called the Prime Minister "Stalin Ben-Gurion Hitler.")
Further, if JFK sought to break the CIA into a thousand pieces, he would have effectively broke its surrogate, the Mossad, into pieces also. Further, if JFK sought to end the Pope's Cold War PREMATURELY in 1963 (later ended by the Knights of Malta at the Island of Malta in December, 1989), there could have been no justification for LBJ's military buildup of Israel that led to the Black Pope's successful 1967 war resulting in the Labor Zionist possession of the temple mount, having taken it away from Jordan. The 1967 war prepared for this present Papal Crusade against Islam (called for by Angleton) to include the ultimate demolition of the Dome of the Rock thereafter to be replaced with a Third Hebrew Temple---for the Pope.
Further, if JFK would have ended the Pope's Cold War, the Vatican---secretly behind the Masonic Jewish Zionist government of Israel but openly against it---would have been forced to openly oppose the Arab nations whom it was befriending and building at that time. Clearly, JFK was an enemy of the Ben-Gurion Government and thus an enemy of the Jesuits ruling the Vatican via Pope Paul VI---the overseer of Pius XII's Vatican Ratlines. (Remember also that the Order sacrificed SS Colonel Adolf Eichmann then living in Argentina thanks to Bishop Hudal, using its CIA-controlled Mossad to bring the ex-Nazi to Jerusalem for trial. This key act saved the government of Ben-Gurion that was about to fall after the revelation that Rudolf Kastner was involved with Eichmann in deporting 400,000 Jews to Auschwitz shortly before the end of the war.) Since the CIA was a creation of the Vatican via the Knights of Malta and high-level Freemasonry, and since the Mossad was a creation of the CIA via SMOM Reinhard Gehlen, then yes, the Mossad was involved in the JFK assassination---Leah Rabin admitting that her husband, Yitzhak Rabin, was in Dallas the day of the murder. This will be included in VAIII because Piper's claims on Mossad involvement are TRUE.But we are in "the times of the Gentiles" according to the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, which times will end with his second coming (Luke 21:24-27).
As long as Jerusalem is under Gentile rule during the international Jewish Diaspora, then Gentiles rule every other faction of world government. This includes Gentile supremacy in banking, politics, religion, organized crime, military might and the sciences to name a few. The Jews involved in these arenas are SUBORDINATE, not Supreme over Gentiles. This is in perfect agreement with Deuteronomy 28:44, the Gentile being the head, the Jew being the tail this day.The Gentile Jesuits of power have reversed this truth (ah, Black is White and White is Black), seeking to place the blame for the demise of world---and the United States---on the Jews in general. This is classic Jesuitism, and this is what Michael Collins Piper has done.The debate will be well ordered and quite interesting. Please tune in, but don't drop out!
Sincerely in the Faith,
Brother Eric
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MooseDog: This was rather uneventful. Too many commercials... more than usual. That guy Piper is lacking in history of the jesuits. Eric agreed with this guy and accepted his info he put forth and said he would research more of these issues, Piper said over and over Phelps didn't know what he was talking about and said jesuits have no power. If we learned anything from this debate it is that Phelps is clearly more open minded to new info. Who's at the top of the most powerful Hierarchy? Follow the money. Who has the most stuff? The Vatican comes out the winner every time. They still have everything they looted from the library at Alexandria. All those at the top at the Federal Reserve are all Knights of Malta and went to Jesuit colleges. All roads lead to Rome...
MooseDog: Exactly, Phelps is more educated. Piper is either not as informed or purposely ignoring some facts, either way doesn't really matter.
Mark Brewer: If the Liberty Lobby is pushing Piper's books, that explains a lot. The Liberty Lobby was founded by Willis Carto, who was a disciple of Jesuit the trained fascist Francis Parker Yockey. http://www.johnreilly.info/dod.htm
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Bladestone: Did anyone else listen to Michael Collins Piper's own show after the debate? I almost couldnt get all the way through it. He talks with callers about how he supposily "won" the debate and calls Eric Jon Phelps a Zionist himself. This man is truely ignorant of the facts.
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper/0605/20060516_Tue_Piper.mp3
MooseDog: The Italian mafia will just kill you and take what they want. The Jewish mafia will guilt you with thier excellent book keeping skills. Maybe the pen is mightier than the sword. who knows? I'm wondering how come I've never seen a movie where the Jewish Empire is holding the Romans as slaves. The Romans even made their own calender that we still use today. I'm gunna listen to that link Blade, thanks. Phelps is laid back, he isn't going to lower himself and act like that guy Piper. He's not going to talk over people and get in a shouting match. I guess since Piper said numerous times that Eric's points are "illogical" or "falls on its illogical face" or just "wrong wrong wrong" and never explains why anything he says is wrong then it must be true. Even if we pretend with Piper that Zionists control the vatican and jesuits... How do they do it? When did this take place? Phelps can name every person in government and tell us thier connection whether they are Jew, or SMOM, or high level mason. Phelps is the only guy that even names names. You never hear any talk show host mention any names. That's how you investigate crimes... identify the person, track thier money/investiments, identify his fellow conspirators. And everyone is always SMOM or some other Jesuit College trained flunky. This WingTV article is pretty funny, at least it's not one sided.
Mark Brewer: Folks like Piper never say exactly what is wrong with being a Zionist anyway. I guess they expect people to associate Zionism with evil conspiracies. I actually have no problem with Zionism, but the people who run the Israeli government are just as corrupt as other government officials.
MooseDog: That Michael Piper's show is silly, it is painfull to listen too. He says everything Phelps says about JFK is totally wrong and his example: he says Phelps wants us to believe the vatican is pro-abortion. Doesn't everyone believe Bush is anti-abortion? but then he increases planned parenthood funding, all the state judges he appointed as texas governor were pro-abortion. Ummm hello michael and lisa. Everyday politicians say one thing do the exact opposite. Maybe they haven't been paying attention. The Pope is just a politican who wears funnier looking clothes and goofy hats. The mobster will hug his best friend and tell him he loves him and then blow his head off the next second. Maybe Michael and lisa have never seen Mob movie. Anyway Piper and wingnutTV seems to really want to just say Phelps is wrong and illogical and push thier opinions, i'm sure phelps could care less what any of them think or what any of us think. Maybe Phelps is a Zionist he does have that diamond and gem business where he imports from tel aviv. http://www.lowvehm.com/diamonds.htm
Mark Brewer: I was not that impressed with the debate either. It revolved too much around the JFK assassination and there are many other conspiracies the Vatican has been proven to be involved in that are much more significant.
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