Jesuit Trained Former CIA Agent Questioned About Allegiance To Vatican First and U.S. Second
Outspoken Bush war critic Ray McGovern has taken up sides against the Jewish Lobby but won't utter a peep about Vatican-led NWO, according to Bible believing Christian, Tom Richards
By Greg Szymanski, JD
Jan. 14, 2008
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/14-Jan-2008.html
Once a CIA agent always a CIA agent should be the tag placed on Ray
McGovern, a former CIA agent and outspoken critic of the Bush
administration and Jewish lobby on Capitol Hill, according to Thomas
Richards of www.spirituallysmart.com
McGovern has been a longtime outspoken critic of what he calls "the
illegal Iraqi War," but Richards says the Jesuit Fordham and Georgetown
trained former CIA analyst will not say one bad word about the
Vatican-led New World Order.
According to Richards and other outspoken critics, the time has come to
expose and call-out people like McGovern who fail to make the Vatican
connection to the NWO while instead figure pointing at the Jews as
America's main enemy.
"In fairness to McGovern, I will ask him to come on my radio show to
answer these Vatican-related questions, knowing he is Fordham trained
with one of the big players in the Vatican-led NWO and Illuminati, Avery
Cardinal Dulles," said Greg Szymanski of The Investigative Journal radio
show. "If he doesn't come on or fails to talk openly about Vatican
improprieties, especially in regards to some federal law suits going on
now, you can assume something is rotten in Denmark."
In past years, McGovern has appeared on The Investigative Journal, but
was not asked about the Vatican, his interview being limited to the
evils of the Bush administration and especially the revelations of the
infamous Downing Street Memo, revealing high-level officials had fixed
an Iraqi war policy after doctoring facts about WMD's.
However, Richards says it's time to look a little deeper into the
Vatican roots of the NWO, exposing possible disinformation artists like
McGovern, who appear to be working for the people's interests but really
have their initial loyalty to their masters in Rome.
Further, McGovern's connection to the ecumenical Church of the Saviour
in Washington D.C., spreading unification with who Bible believers call
the anti-christ in the Vatican, may be another clue to his allegiance to
Rome, according to Richards.
Here is Richards commentary on McGovern recently appearing on his
anti-Vatican web site:
Ray McGovern anti-Jewish antagonist.
McGovern, another "Blame the Jews" dis-information specialist, and
takes the position of "good cop" in the "good cop, bad cop" trick, and
another classic example of a wolf in sheep's clothing inside the
"alternative media".
Another "Ex" CIA, Jesuit trained, friend of Alex Jones appearing in many
headline Alex Jones stories run on infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.
I noticed some key words of McGovern in a video as I was researching on
this man and began looking at his comments regarding Jews and Israel.
The following was taken from and article by Ami Isseroff
http://www.zionism-israel.com/iraq_war_jews.htm
"The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former
intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in
Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration
"neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that part of
the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and
that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
"Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation,"
McGovern said. "The last time I did this, the previous director of
Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic."
Well no kidding. If you make the sort of remarks about Jews that Hitler
made, you just might be considered an anti-Semite. Waddayaknow about
that?
Even more interesting is what and who prompted McGovern's brilliant
analysis:
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering
whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked
McGovern for his "candid answer."
Moran should be familiar to you from his previous comments. The last
time he expressed his opinions about the the Jewish people, Moran said:
"If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for this
war with Iraq, we would not be doing this...The leaders of the Jewish
community are influential enough that they could change the direction of
where this is going, and I think they should."
There is really not much to choose between the stereotype of the Jewish
(or Zionist) "neocons" who support the Iraq war, and the stereotype of
the Jewish (or Zionist) Bolsheviks. Neither assertion is supported by
the facts. The overwhelming majority of US Jews (75- 80%) voted for Al
Gore and John Kerry and are not Republicans. Moran's remarks were
adopted by anti-Semites as well as anti-Zionists as "proof" that "the
Jews" are behind the Iraq war. Moran later apologized and said:
"I should not have singled out the Jewish community and regret giving
any impression that its members are somehow responsible for the course
of action being pursued by the administration, or are somehow behind an
impending war,"
Notice this Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), states, "If it were not for
the strong support of the Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we
would not be doing this...."
Pretty interesting he would make this statement when Catholicism as a
religion makes up the biggest percentage of Congress by far. In
2005-2006 (109th Congress the statistics were Catholics 28.8% to the
Jewish 6.9%)
Also notice McGovern doing his job and playing the same role phonies
like Alex Jones plays in blaming the "Neo-Cons" and especially VP Cheney
and then also the Jewish Lobby.
Comment by Thomas Richards, "I have seen this time and time again. It is
nothing new in history. The Jews are always blamed for the problems in
the world. This is the chief reason I put my web site
spirituallysmart.com together. The "blame the Jews" crowd have only a
hand-full of accusations against Israel that each one of these
disinformation specialists constantly repeat. Interesting fact. Every
single one of these Jew-Bashers are promoting Ron Paul for 2008. All of
these people blame the Jews for Communism as well. This isn't an
accident. This is a special group of people who are doing this and their
agenda has many uses. For one. People like Alex Jones, Dylan Avery,
Corey Rowe and Jason Bermas who are the biggest voices in the 9/11 truth
movement use these Jew Bashers to lump those exposing the Vatican in
with. I've heard Jones say it and I've heard the "Loose Change" boys say
it with my own ears when confronted on the historical fact of the
Vatican being behind Fascism.
When confronted about the Vatican involvement in 9/11 they immediately
bring up the "Anti-Zionists, Reptoid shape shifter Agenda believers, and
Aliens" with Alex Jones calling the "Catholics run it all crew" "The
Worst" and even calling us "Mental Cases" all the while lecturing about
how it's not good to divide the truth movement.
What's interesting is I have put together a little list of Catholic
friends of Alex Jones and their past Anti-Jewish statements. Here are a
few:
1. Mel Gibson. Anti-Jewish Quote: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are
responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the
deputy, "Are you a Jew?"
2. Hutton Gibson (Mel Gibson's father). Anti-Jewish Quote: Hutton Gibson
said that accounts of the Holocaust were mostly "fiction" and asserted
that there were more Jews in Europe after World War II than before.
3. Patrick J Buchanan. Anti-Jewish Quote: When speaking of Adolf Hitler
he said Hitler was, "an individual of great courage" and "Hitler's
success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was
an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness
masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who
stood in his path."
Let's up the anti here and make an even stronger case against Jones.
Let's just mention other people Jones is involved with and a few facts
surrounding these people.
John DeCamp, Author of the "Conspiracy of Silence". John DeCamp is the
Ex Aid of CIA William Colby who was the one time director of the CIA and
was found dead under incredibly suspicious circumstances. This
Conspiracy of Silence was actually a huge cover-up of the Arch Diocese
of Omaha Nebraska's involvement in the pedophilia taking place there.
The judge that heard the case "forced" John DeCamp to take the Arch
Diocese off the law suit. Even though it was established that underaged
boys were flown to Washington DC for degenerate political pedophilia
parties only one man ended up being convicted of a crime and was
sentenced to serve jail time (Larry King). Jones was in on this
smokescreen and promoted it.
Ted L Gunderson who worked with DeCamp on this Conspiracy of Silence and
is a major source of dis-information in this country spot lighting small
time satan worshippers in this country as a threat when it is actually
the Roman Catholic church who are the true luciferians and satanists who
actively teach their followers that their "works" of performing their
pagan rituals will allow them to enter heaven when they die.
Both of these men promote Alex Jones and his non catholic [div] version
of the Bohemian Grove and Alex Jones promotes both of these men.
Alex Jones publicly lauded Martin Sheen in one of his few short
appearances on [CIA] CNN. Martin Sheen took his name after the
Charismatic Bishop Fulton Sheen and has had personal audiences with Pope
JP II (the same one "PROTESTANT" Ron Paul praises)
Here's an interesting fact. It has been shown by great U.S historians
such as Eric Phelps of vaticanassassins.org and Bill Hughes and others
that the sinking of the Titanic was a "Vatican Job". Who narrated the
documentary? None other than Jesuit Coadjutor Martin Sheen.
Now these same researchers are putting together the fact that the
Vatican was behind 9/11 also. Now who narrated the documentary on 9/11?
Martin Sheen's son, Charlie Sheen. Coincidence? I doubt it!
Here are some other links regarding Jesuit Trained "Ex CIA" Ray
McGovern:
Article and picture on prisonplanet.com
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2...6iranstrike.htm
video url of McGovern saying how he spoke at a meeting at Jesuit
Georgetown university.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy4pJBO0f8Q
Short McGovern Bio:
"McGovern was born and raised in the Bronx. He graduated summa cum laude
of Fordham University. A "Distinguished Military Graduate", he served in
the US Army from 1962-64 as an intelligence officer. McGovern also
received an M.A. in Russian Studies from Fordham University, a
certificate in Theological Studies from Georgetown University and was a
graduate of Harvard Business School's Advanced Management Program."
Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the
ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington, DC. He writes and speaks
for the arm of Tell the Word called “Speaking Truth to Power.”
http://inquestiraq.org/McGovern.html
http://www.fordham.edu/campus_resources/pu...side_fordham/Ju
ne_29_2007/news/alumnus_says_activis_25964.asp
_____________________________
Brother Eric
| QUOTE |
| Hi Eric, I will copy a small post I made in relation to Napoleons advances in Russia. I can guess you know this already, but some of it may be of some use: "More telling evidence of Napoleon having sabotaged his own armies efforts to defeat the retreating Russian army are found at Lubino-Valutina Gora. The French troops had the Russians at their mercy and Napoleons failure to order the attack is considered an "uncharacterisitic mistake", one of very many that he made during the Russian Campaign. Napoleon had a remarkeable military understanding, and once he started, it was very important to win this campaign and as quick as possible, considering the situation in Europe, and Wellingtons successes in Spain. Of course Napoleon would not have made "uncharacteristic mistakes" of that magnitude and a look at his Russian campaign versus his other campaigns can be an indication of his true intentions in Russia. The effect of Napoleons Russian campaign was to weaken his army to such an extent that it permitted the restoration of the monarchs of europe, without a revolutionary French army to prevent it. As for Lubino-Valutina Gora, even the russian army couldn't understand why the French army didn't smash them. Woldemar Von Lowestern said "Never had our army been in greater danger. The fate of the campaign and the army should have been sealed that day". Lieutenant Colonel Von Crady (of the French Armee) was to say "If we had attacked the Russians would have been routed, so all of us soldiers and officers were eagerly waiting the order to attack. Napoleons actions preserved the Russian army yet again in this campaign. Napoleon made so many "uncharacteristic errors" in that campaign that he must take all the blame for their defeat. In fact a study of the war in Russia will leave no doubt that Napoleon couldn't possibly have lost without such uncharacteristic errors. Of course we can assume those "errors" were so numerous and of such magnititude that there was another agenda at play. Napoleons astonishing treatment of Roman Catholic Poland and all his other potential allies before the war began all aided his downfall, but even still, he still should have routed the Russian army on more than one occasion before he ever reached Moscow. Napoleons attack on the religiously significant city of Smolensk also highlighted more "uncharacteristic errors" which cost the lives of many of his own troops, and all needlessly. There was no military advantage in making such an assault on Smolensk, and we can assume its significance to the "heretic" Orthodox Church played some role. Napoleon made another "uncharacteristic error" on August 13 when an energetic frontal attack would have annihilated the russian army that was in a state of confusion and all over the place. We must alwasy bear in mind that the Russian army was retreating and the French soldiers were chasing them and looking very every possible chance for an energetic frontal attack, but when those chances arose Napoleons decisions preserved the Russian army and prevented an early and easy success for his own side. Also bear in mind that the French destroyed the Russian army very quickly only a few years earlier. Napoleons "uncharacteristic" desicion to halt his troops when the Russians were crossing the river Luchesa, and his pointless delays in Vilna are further indicators of his decisions working very much against his own Armee" Best Regards |
Dear Tom,
Great post.
The Order, controlling Napoleon, never intended to defeat the Russian army. (HItler would do the same during Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the USSR in 1941.) After all, the Jesuit General was residing in St. Petersburg and the Grand Master of the Knights of Malta, also resident in Russia, had just entered into an alliance and agreement with the Black Pope. Russia was to be a huge Jesuit-ruled Empire controlled from Moscow. But in 1820 the Company was expelled for which Alexander I was poisoned in 1825. His successor Nicholas I negotiated a concordat with Pius IX, the Jesuits making progress against Orthodox Russia. But then Alexander II broke off diplomatic relations with the Vatican and signed a Constitution the day he was murdered on the Order's fifth attempt. With Alexander III in the pocket of the Black Pope, the Czar overruled the Constitution and persecuted the Jews during the 1880s, blaming the Jews for the killing of Alexander II.
But the Jesuit General had had enought of the back-and-forth support and non-support of the Russian Czars. So the Knights of Malta aided the Order's Bolshevik Revolution in 1917. In 1922 Jesuit Edmund Walsh from Georgetown University went to Moscow and set up Stalin to be the Secretary of the Communist party until Stalin's poisoning in 1953. From that time on the Jesuits have built up Soviet/Communist Russia using American cartel corporate fascists who were high level Freemasons (Henry Ford and Thomas J. Watson---IBM) and Knights of Malta (J. Peter Grace, Averill Harriman, etc). This explains the 11 billion USD in supplies given to Stalin during the Lend Lease period including the atomic bomb/device in 1943. Those ingredients necessary for the building of the bomb were then shipped into Japan, as Jesuit Hirohito's Japan was not at war with the Jesuit Stalin's USSR, and later detonated on the ground in Hiroshima and Nagasaki immediately after the airbursts of magnesian flash bombs dropped by Masonic LeMay's B-29s.
Now the Jesuit Order has its huge Russian Empire as desired from the days of Napoleon's betrayal of his army for the benefit of Russia. The Russian/Soviet enemy of the American people is alive and well. That enemy is to be used on the US in a joint attack that includes allies China and the Sunni Moslem World. This threefold cord will not be broken; for the devil and his Jesuit General abide by the maxims of the Scriptures though openly against the Word of God being in the hands of the common man.
Thanks again.
Sincerely in faith,
Brother Eric
Let's not forget that Ron Paul's link to Louis Lehrman is a clear indication of his loyalty to the Vatican. For Louis Lehrman is a racially Jewish convert to Roman Catholicism and is a Knight of Malta. Further, via Lehrman, the Knights of Malta are the real backers for the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) which includes the North American Union and the loss of American sovereignty.
Nice post.
Sincerely in faith,
Brother Eric
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:57 AM
Subject: The New Hampshire Vote Fraud
>
> Hi,
>
> Shortly after the supposed Vote Fraud during the New Hampshire Primary,
> FOX news launched a question how it could be that Ron Paul got so many
> supporters from the 911 for truth movements. "Did Congress man Ron Paul
> recently change his view on the 911 attacks?" Ron Paul denied flat that
> 911 was a inside job. FOX news really out-FOX-ed the alternative media
> by asking this. I myself also started wondering. How can this be?
>
> Here's my take on Ron Paul. EVERYBODY KNOWS 911 was a planned job to
> get the Patriot Act passed, and ignite a boom in surveillance
> technology, adding a new economic branch into the Military Industrial
> Complex. Elaborating on WHO exactly did 911 is without a official
> INDEPENDENT authoritative study not a wise thing todo during an ongoing
> election campaign. I guess Ron Paul supporters who know all about 911
> are forced to give Ron Paul the advantage/benefit of the doubt, and
> pass over $20 million into the Ron Paul Campaign coffers.
>
> But here's where my doubt starts. Is Ron Paul really the guy who is
> going to cleanup The Washington D.C. Beltway? I personally fear not.
> Here's why. It might be a dead cow, but never elect a US President from
> Texas. We have Dwight Eisenhower, who shortly after WWII allowed
> German people die of starvation. Then there's Lyndon Johnson, who sure
> was into the deal to have his former boss JFK get shot. And then we
> have the Bushes. A lot of trouble has been invented, organized and
> implemented from TX. Like the Ross Perot Campaign the Ron Paul Campaign
> does have it odd quirks. We just discussed the 911 issue but there's
> more. Ron Paul DID co-publish this book "The Case for Gold" with
> hard-core neo-con and PNAC co-founder Lewis Lehrman. Today that should
> be reasons enough for doubt, but why has the same book recently been
> re-published through the Ludwig von Mises Institute? Here's the URL to
> that re-published book :
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00...9144665-7648836
>
> Then we have the New Hampshire Vote fraud, where both Kucinich and Ron
> Paul seem to have lost votes. The mainstream media of course will tell
> you that's bull. And it certainly cannot be denied that the New
> Hampshire Primary could have been spinned into a Vote Fraud by, this
> time, the alternative Internet media. An alternative 911 for truth media
> which has its headquarters in ... TX. So how does one detect if a SPIN of
> the real story is at hand? One harvests articles, video and radio
> reports published during the New Hampshire Primary election night.
> Here's a small story :
>
> The alternative media _might_ SPIN the New Hampshire Primary drama for
> Ron Paul as a massive vote fraud, but there's more at hand :
>
> http://crashrecovery.org/Chambers_010908-R...-is-a-fraud.mp3
>
> Rob Bishop, a highly active grass roots campaigner to get Ron Paul on
> the GOP ballot, and RBN radio host on Sunday night, had something else
> to comment and called in at the Midnight Rider show by Mike Chambers
> from 11:00 pm - 1:00 am on the night of the election.
>
> Basicly he claims that the Ron Paul campaign might have raised over
> $20 million but they only spend a couple of 100,000 dollars for the
> New Hampshire Primary. Rudy Giuliani on the other hand, who raised
> almost no money during his election campaign, comes out in New
> Hampshire and spends over $12 million to at least secure his place on
> the ticket.
>
> Also, in the first hour, Chambers and Bishop [1] concluded that
> according their first examinations no vote fraud was at hand, because
> the vote results from the paper ballot precincts were in total
> agreement with the "Diebold" precincts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
> PS.
> [1] The Midnight Rider
> by Mike Chambers, Tuesday Jan 8, 2008, 11:00 pm - 1:00 am
> "Guests: Walter Reddy -- Jim Condit -- and Rob Bishop
> Topic: Dissecting the primary results."
> http://arc.republicbroadcasting.org/Chambe...0808_230000.MP3
> http://arc.republicbroadcasting.org/Chambe...0808_000000.MP3
> --
> Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
> Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
> crashrecovery.org stock@stokkie.net
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